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Old 06-14-20, 07:26 PM
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Replacment for Dura Ace 7400 headset

I have a nice 80s columbus SL roadbike, with this dura ace 7400 headset that's just been an endless pain in the butt for years. No matter how hard I tighten down the locknut it always works itself loose after just 1 or 2 rides. A couple years ago, no surprise, it finally brinnelled and so I decided to replace the caged bearings with loose balls, which worked for a couple years but now I'm getting indexed steering again. Several times I've spent too long online trying to find a replacement to no avail. I'm not really interested in getting another 7400, given all the trouble I had with it, besides they're absurdly expensive on ebay. But the problem is I can't seem to find a replacement with a similar stack height, which according to velobase is 36.3 mm. When I took it apart a couple years ago I seem to remember confirming this number with a measurement.

It looks like all the new threaded headsets are either >40mm stack height for cartridge bearing models or ~30mm for caged bearing models. I don't need anything that fancy, i'm just looking for something bomb proof that I can install and never have to worry about for many years. Seems like the options these days for 1" threaded headsets are pretty limited, any ideas?
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I was going to say Chris King as he handles all my Threaded needs but you need a specific stack height and I am unsure what the stack height is.

You might try the IRD Durall Headset I believe that is the closest match I know of.
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This was posted on BF a number of years ago. I can't verify the accuracy, but it should help...


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Originally Posted by Randybb
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Learn how to properly adjust a threaded headset before you ruin another nice one.

Or just get a cheap cartridge bearing one.
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Originally Posted by FastJake
Learn how to properly adjust a threaded headset before you ruin another nice one.

Or just get a cheap cartridge bearing one.
I had similar problems keeping an Ultegra headset adjusted. I'm not inexperienced either: 41 years since I started working on bikes professionally.

If SanO's chart is accurate, I'd put a Tange Levin headset on the bike and call it a day. It might need an extra washer to be sure the locknut doesn't bottom out but you'll find that out when you put it all together.
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Old 06-14-20, 10:28 PM
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I actually thought that same thing and checked eBay and saw a few at 33.3mm... but what’s .004”?

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Originally Posted by FastJake
Learn how to properly adjust a threaded headset before you ruin another nice one.

Or just get a cheap cartridge bearing one.
comment from the velobase page: "The 7400 series was and still is the best most bullet proof groupset ever with this headset being the weakest link needing regular checking tends to brindle"

I've had quite a few bikes with threaded headsets over the years, and none have been remotely as problematic as this one.

Originally Posted by Jeff Wills
I had similar problems keeping an Ultegra headset adjusted. I'm not inexperienced either: 41 years since I started working on bikes professionally.

If SanO's chart is accurate, I'd put a Tange Levin headset on the bike and call it a day. It might need an extra washer to be sure the locknut doesn't bottom out but you'll find that out when you put it all together.
I was considering the Levin but I hate fudging it with a washer, but honestly, the bike is not some museum piece, I should be going for function over form. 3mm difference could be worse. thanks!
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I have a Specialzed Pro headset which has been golden for years. It is still smooth. I know I probably won’t find another. I’m going to pick up a a Chris King Gripnut on of these days for down the road. But at $150, I’ve been putting it off.

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Originally Posted by FastJake
Learn how to properly adjust a threaded headset before you ruin another nice one.
The Shimano 7400 headset uses aluminum threaded pieces. I suspect that the threads have been damaged so that it can no longer hold adjustment. A new headset of the same or shorter stack height will fix the problem, and the fretting damage the OP reports as well.
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