Hoffa626

I like to ride 30 miles in one direction on road and trails, then trail run 13 miles, then ride back home another 30 miles. I am trying to trim gear-fat and not have to carry 2 pairs of shoes. One pair of cycling shoes for clip pedals, and one pair of trail running shoes. If I can wear my trail running shoes with platform pedals, then I won't have to bring along another set of shoes. Has anyone had experience doing something like this? I am concerned that 60+ miles will be a bit too much to not have clip pedals and cycling shoes. Any recommendations on a good shoes to run far and cycle in, or pedal recommendations, or any one who's done something similar and knows the advantages of the cycling shoes aren't worth cutting the extra carried gear??? Any easy way to carry the second pair of shoes? Input is appreciated.

katsup

I'm not a runner, but I use flat pedals with pins on all my bikes. I have tried riding with running shoes (New Balance 993) for around 50 miles and they worked, but you could feel the pins after about an hour which got uncomfortable toward the end of the ride.. I went back to hiking shoes (Merrell Moab) which work great due to having a harder sole.

In the end, it's just bike riding, you don't need to special accessories to go on a ride.

Steve B.

Flats/pinned or clipped in,. what makes the cycling comfortable for 60 miles is going to be a stiff soled shoe. That's not going to be great for running. I'd get a backpacking style under seat bag and carry the running shoes. If this were a one off I'd say use flat pedals and running shoes, but a couple times per week you'll hurt something trying the one shoe approach.

tangerineowl

As mentioned above, I'd store extra pair in bag at the rear.

Those bags tend to weigh around 200gm or so. Maybe consider a suitable size lightweight stuff bag and strap it tight, if you want to cut some ride weight.

Hoffa626

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, Steve. I've considered carrying an Ortlieb Pannier that converts to a backpack and run with my road shoes packed in it. That was kinda my last resort cause I'd like to avoid a rear rack, but it's looking more and more like I'm leaning that way to check all the boxes that I'd like to check

EGBigelo

I'm not a big fan of rear racks, but what about a frame bag to carry your running shoes in?

Hoffa626

I'm not either, but a frame bag then gets into my hydration and pump, so then those have to be relocated.

Steve B.

There are a lot of different sized behind/under the seat bags, or large handle bar bags designed for bike packing. I was thinking on e of those, just large enough for a pair of shoes.

https://www.rei.com/c/saddle-packs?i...7Csaddle-packs

https://www.rei.com/c/handlebar-pack...andlebar-packs

Happy Feet

Geekage

I thought that some trail running shoes have stiffer soles so rocks and stuff aren't poking into your feet. If so they'd able to deal with traction pins and have improved power transfer, at least compared to road running shoes or cross trainers.

Or go old school and use toe clips and straps. Just be aware that sometimes there's a dip between the pedal cages and the pedal body, so the shoe is flexing down there. Or quill pedals poke up into the side of the sole. So you'd need to be careful choosing a pedal and strap combination.

wheelsmcgee

30/13/30? Sounds like a serious day! I would be going pretty chill by that last 30.

Like Geekage says, a lot of trail shoes have a rock plate or some kind of reinforcement that makes them stiff enough to be suitable for cycling. I did a short run/bike/run event on gravel a year or two ago, I want to say 3/15/3 miles, and I used my trail running shoes for everything...they did great; the bike I used had flat pedals with pins...they gripped well. Honestly, I don’t care for being clipped in as much after 3-4 hours...I want to shift my feet around, and it’s nice to not have to be clipped if I’m cramping up.

shoota 

I have no idea but consider me impressed.

Random11

I'm a former runner but had to give it up because my knees couldn't take the pounding anymore. I started cycling about 2 1/2 years ago but never bought any cycling shoes. I just use my old Nike Air Pegasus shoes with flat petals and have never had an issue. I've done several rides over 50 miles although most of my rides are shorter. In my experience, running shoes work fine for cycling. (Also, my constant knee pain has gone away.)

gus6464

Wait so if you ride 30 miles to the trail where do you leave the bike while you are running the 13 miles?

blamester

I wear running shoes and flat pedals.
No problems. It's easy. In my opinion cycling shoes are idiotic and add very little to cycling.
You have got the shoes and there are plenty of good cheap pedals so it is easy to try and see if you like it.

jgarib

Hoffa- I also like to run/bike, with a bike stash at the end and ride on FS road to the car or vice versa. My partner and I stash my bike gear w/our bikes in the woods so we don't have your issue...and while we run longer than 13m we don't bike 60m as well the same day : ) you probably carry water/food/etc while running...how do you carry that on your bike and can't you just add your trail shoes? Strap your shoes under your saddle rails with 2 Voile straps? If you can't carry trail shoes on the bike, check your local CL or ebay for used Ultimate Direction or similar vests (no belt)- well built, back pocket will carry shoes. Avoid older hydration packs with built in bladders...
Or as my bike guru tells me- want your bike 5 lbs lighter? start with your belly!

shoota 

Idiotic? Is that really the word you meant to use?

shoota 

You should use the "Quote" button to get people's attention on here.

I like some of your points. There is a lake with trail running about 13 miles from me and this thread has always gotten my attention. I like the idea riding -> running -> riding. For several reasons I haven't been able to try it out yet but I'm always soaking up the info until I do. Thank you, and welcome to BF.

blamester

Yes.
​So the position of your feet is fixed no matter what your position. Is spinning a 39/28 the same as pushing hard head down into a head wind or downhill spinning a 52 /12 or rolling along in 52 /19. I don't think so.
I notice my foot position changes depending on how I am riding.
I'm not talking cms but maybe mms.
Cold feet that get colder as you cycle cos you can't move them.
You can't walk in them.
And if you have only one bike your compromised.
I have tried them and gave them a good go but they are pointless for me and I wouldn't advise anyone to use them.
Fair enough you look like a real cyclist, a fast racer.
I ride a lot almost everyday and have been for over forty years.
Brought up on bmx.
And how exactly are they more efficient. Cos Look said so. And everyone bought them.
Flat flexible trail running shoes are my go to.

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fourfa

you know what, never mind. Don't feed the trolls

blamester

So I needed expensive ones to fix the issues I wrote about above.
Well ain't that just another reason why they are stupid.