glass shard in tire (no leak): leave it or take it out?
02-23-21, 12:22 PM
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1. Are you sure you have sufficient sealant in the tire.
2. Is the sealant fresh ( My definition..... < 3 months old )
If the shard was only toothpick sized and not a sidewall, I’d expect the patient to make a full recovery.
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2. Is the sealant fresh ( My definition..... < 3 months old )
If the shard was only toothpick sized and not a sidewall, I’d expect the patient to make a full recovery.
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02-23-21, 12:27 PM
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Rema TT13. Bit like a regular patch for a tube, but reenforced specifically for tubeless repairs.
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Expensive.....yes
Used often..... No (just as well)
02-23-21, 02:37 PM
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I saw a TV program where the doctors had to decide whether to remove a bullet that was perilously close to a patient's spinal cord. Leave it in, and he could become paralyzed (or not). Attempt to remove it, and he could become paralyzed, die from complications, or make a recovery. I was entranced.
This thread has been like that. Except for the dramatic music, of course...
This thread has been like that. Except for the dramatic music, of course...
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Think of it as a wound that never heals. An object in a tire with sealant is going to move every time the tire rolls over the object. It opens the gap and allows air to escape as well as letting more sealant escape. The hole never really seals.
Remove the object and the hole seals properly.
Remove the object and the hole seals properly.
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02-23-21, 03:23 PM
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Sealant (Stan's) is six months old, installed by LBS.
02-23-21, 03:27 PM
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time to add more stans in it.
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02-23-21, 04:31 PM
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I draw mine out every 3 months and replace with fresh.
I live in CA which is a little "arid".
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02-23-21, 06:25 PM
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The Stans instructions state... "Will last 2-7 months, depending on conditions. For best results inspect sealant every 3-4 weeks. Arid climates and storage areas may require more frequent replenishment."
I draw mine out every 3 months and replace with fresh.
I live in CA which is a little "arid".
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I draw mine out every 3 months and replace with fresh.
I live in CA which is a little "arid".
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02-23-21, 06:30 PM
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02-23-21, 06:32 PM
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02-23-21, 06:58 PM
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02-23-21, 08:06 PM
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02-24-21, 09:07 AM
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First I appreciate all the suggestions that have been offered. I read each and every one and considered them all carefully.
After yet another (nearly) sleepless night pondering this dilemma, this morning I decided to test the old dictum "The Enemy Of Good Is Better." So I went to the garage, strapped a headlamp on my forehead, procured a pair of fine-tipped forceps, and pulled the little glass shard out of the tire. It was a small bugger, about the size of a wooden toothpick head. As soon as I removed it there was a hiss of white liquid air- sealant. This did not stop. I attached the pump and kept re-filling the tire to a pressure of about 30 PSI, while orienting the puncture side down so that the sealant inside would pool over the hole and (I hoped) plug it. But the hissing and bubbling continued. For about five minutes, Then it stopped. I pumped the tire up to 50 PSI (My riding pressure) and the leak resumed, but only for a minute or so.
It's been three hours and on repeated pressure checks the tire has remained at 50 PSI.
I am looking for some SuperGlue to instill into the tiny crack in the rubber.
Tonight, I will sleep well.
Thank you.
First I appreciate all the suggestions that have been offered. I read each and every one and considered them all carefully.
After yet another (nearly) sleepless night pondering this dilemma, this morning I decided to test the old dictum "The Enemy Of Good Is Better." So I went to the garage, strapped a headlamp on my forehead, procured a pair of fine-tipped forceps, and pulled the little glass shard out of the tire. It was a small bugger, about the size of a wooden toothpick head. As soon as I removed it there was a hiss of white liquid air- sealant. This did not stop. I attached the pump and kept re-filling the tire to a pressure of about 30 PSI, while orienting the puncture side down so that the sealant inside would pool over the hole and (I hoped) plug it. But the hissing and bubbling continued. For about five minutes, Then it stopped. I pumped the tire up to 50 PSI (My riding pressure) and the leak resumed, but only for a minute or so.
It's been three hours and on repeated pressure checks the tire has remained at 50 PSI.
I am looking for some SuperGlue to instill into the tiny crack in the rubber.
Tonight, I will sleep well.
Thank you.
02-24-21, 09:16 AM
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Just let the thread die. 40+ posts on a piece of glass no bigger than a toothpick.
What, are you all hunkered down and stuck at home!
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02-24-21, 09:24 AM
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because mamma mamma mamma said the glass shard is the devil.
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02-24-21, 05:34 PM
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On second inspection, it was not a glass shard at all - it was plastic. Should I have removed it? Could it have been left in? Plastic will, eventually, wear down and degrade, yes? Maybe that was the correct thing to do, I don;t know. Hope to hear everyone's comments and suggestions. Thanks!
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On second inspection, it was not a glass shard at all - it was plastic. Should I have removed it? Could it have been left in? Plastic will, eventually, wear down and degrade, yes? Maybe that was the correct thing to do, I don;t know. Hope to hear everyone's comments and suggestions. Thanks!
