WhyFi

Cold enough to turn it in to an innie.

BoSoxYacht

The power numbers would be very impressive if you stated your weight was 115 pounds, but much less impressive if you weigh 235lbs.

Also your average HR means very little without knowing you Max HR.

BoSoxYacht

A very good point jsharr.

WhyFi

You said that the quality of a ride should come down to how much you enjoy it - what does that have to do with how people measure distance? Does a longer ride = more enjoyable = better quality? Does wind in your hair and sunshine on your face = quality? Does painfully pushing your limits in an effort to improve them = quality?

Seattle Forrest

That counts as riding a bike, sure. Of course it does, you're riding a bike from one place to another. In what kind of bizarro-world wouldn't that count as riding a bike???

laserfj

Guess not everyone can be as strong and awesome as you.

WhyFi

And you're making his point for him. 3669 miles would be very impressive if you spent all those miles at or near threshold, but much less impressive if you're toodling around in Z1. The former is an accomplishment in effort, the latter an accomplishment in time.

BoSoxYacht

I never stated anything about how powerful or fit I am. I stated my YTD mileage, and that was all it took to set some people into self loathing/defense mode.

I am at a comfortable weight for my body type, but that doesn't equate being fit or powerful.

Seattle Forrest

Why are you so hung up on this "effort" red herring? We're talking about riding a bike. Maybe I need to draw a picture or something.

If somebody wanted to know how far you drive your car in a year - say your insurance company - would you only count the miles where the engine was doing more than 1,000 rpms, or would you count all the miles you drove? You'd use the odometer and count all the miles. Would you add imaginary miles for when it was parked? No, you wouldn't. Like a car, a bike is a vehicle.

I think you guys are being deliberately obtuse because this is the 41.

BoSoxYacht

I thanked him for his opinion, but this was a simple mileage thread. He is the one that seemed to want to make it into a "I'm more fit than you" thread.

halfspeed

That's no joke. The northern part of the state is significantly colder longer.

WhyFi

Uh, no - he was pointing a big flaw in your premise, something that you continue to skirt.

WhyFi

4-8" of snow in the metro in the next two days - yay!!!

DaveWC

Yeah, that's what I did...

btw, if it's a simple mileage thread, there is one on the board already.
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...Mileage-Thread

Check the first post... "Trainer miles count - winter riding and well, just because they are miles."

DaveWC

Why are you so hung up on this "ride the bike" red herring. Why isn't it valid to just toss the bike in the trunk and start the Garmin? Per the OP... "Actual miles on the road is all that matters here." Nowhere does he suggest that it matters whether you're pedaling. Even you say that coasting downhill reflects miles traveled so certainly miles in the back of car reflect miles traveled. You seem to think enjoyment is what matters, maybe someone enjoys tooling around with their bike in the trunk. And if you tow your car across country your odometer will reflect that fact and your insurance company will count those miles. Or would they become imaginary miles?

Seattle Forrest

Something that's in the trunk isn't on the road. I'll grant you it's near the road (isolated in a little box).

You're really grasping at straws now.

Sure, they can be counted, mostly because it would be difficult to eliminate them and keep accurate data. (Odometer reading minus that time we got a towed eight years ago.) Also, in the 100,000+ miles on a lot of cars, maybe 15 of them are from being towed. They're clearly not miles you drove the car, but it's generally such a tiny percentage of the total, that it really doesn't matter.

DaveWC

Not grasping at straws at all. Just showing how foolish you look for thinking that you or anyone gets to decide what constitutes "valid" miles on the bike. And someone better call Garmin and tell them that their products are defective. Mine keeps recording miles when I ride indoors.

surgeonstone

No loathing, no self defense, no bitterness at life's decisions on where I live and how, seems to be a readiness on your part to see these elements which likely says more about you than the responder. Strange, is it not, how many of your posts seem to be arguing with some responder, you seem to bring out the worst in so many who respond here (except Matchka of course since she is verifibly a saint, hell you even pissed off the Pope and Popes don't usually get pissed off). Now why would that be do you think?
Maybe it is because this thread is designed, subconsciously, to show us how great you are compared to the rest of us. The very words you use bring out this hostility and clearly I am not the only one here that feels this way.

BoSoxYacht

There you go again. You keep telling me that my intent was to boast about my accomplishment, but it was a simply question about how many miles you had actually ridden outside.

If I wanted to boast, I would have ridiculed those that have ridden less than I have, and mentioned that I'm over 1000 miles behind where I was at this time last year.

All I asked was your actual mileage, because that was all I was curious about.

RollCNY

As your first statement is a judgment, your second statement indicates you are foolish. You really shouldn't be so hard on yourself.

surgeonstone

Well, since you asked nicely 3670 miles and I weigh 169 and am 6 '1/2 ".

patentcad

How did this thread get to page 7 without a discussion of average speed?

Jobiensis

Does average speed on a trainer count?

patentcad

That's the only place it does count.

DaveWC

I'm content with saying that all miles count, if it's miles that you're interested in.