Steel Bike Options?
05-23-19, 03:14 PM
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Also, a cracked steel frame can usually be repaired, while a cracked aluminum frame is usually bound for the recycler.
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06-06-19, 07:30 AM
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More important than the tubing number is the geometry and butting profile. Those two things will make more of a difference when it comes to weight and handling. A butting profile affects weight and flex. Bike geometry affects flex and handling. All those go into if a bike then feels right or not.
853 comes in regular 853, 853 pro team(lighter), and 853 DZB(double zonal butted). As an example I know well, Columbus Zona(quality tubing) comes in a host of butting profiles. The same diameter tube can have long butts, short butts, thinner gauge butting, or thicker gauge butting. So saying 'I want Zona tubing' is sort of like saying 'i want an apple' to a grocer- ok, what apple do you want- a granny smith, honeycrisp, disgusting red delicious?
All that is giving background for why it would be best to ask Gunnar what the specs of the tubing are. Are the top and down tubes .9/.6/.9 with long butts or are they .7/.4/.7 with short butts? Are the chainstays .9mm or .7/.5mm?
What they use will affect handling, feel, and weight. I just think that is more important than focusing on which model of tubing is used.
Email/call Gunnar. Good chance Richard Schwinn will answer/respond and he can go as deep or general on details as you want.
853 comes in regular 853, 853 pro team(lighter), and 853 DZB(double zonal butted). As an example I know well, Columbus Zona(quality tubing) comes in a host of butting profiles. The same diameter tube can have long butts, short butts, thinner gauge butting, or thicker gauge butting. So saying 'I want Zona tubing' is sort of like saying 'i want an apple' to a grocer- ok, what apple do you want- a granny smith, honeycrisp, disgusting red delicious?
All that is giving background for why it would be best to ask Gunnar what the specs of the tubing are. Are the top and down tubes .9/.6/.9 with long butts or are they .7/.4/.7 with short butts? Are the chainstays .9mm or .7/.5mm?
What they use will affect handling, feel, and weight. I just think that is more important than focusing on which model of tubing is used.
Email/call Gunnar. Good chance Richard Schwinn will answer/respond and he can go as deep or general on details as you want.
My new Gunnar Hyper-xf is a bit heavier than I had anticipated, and also very stiff. But that's only one data point for a custom geo frame, so don't draw many conclusions from it.
06-09-19, 06:25 PM
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Yep, a Ritchey would be high on my list If I wanted to spend a little more $$ than on a Genesis Croix de Fer
Genesis: https://road.cc/content/review/15896...e-fer-frameset
Ritchey: https://road.cc/content/review/23657...tback-frameset
I will wait patiently.
I have an old school double butted chromo road bike from back in the day when the art form was perfected. But I’ve always loved the look of bigger tires on a steel bike.
Genesis: https://road.cc/content/review/15896...e-fer-frameset
Ritchey: https://road.cc/content/review/23657...tback-frameset
I will wait patiently.
I have an old school double butted chromo road bike from back in the day when the art form was perfected. But I’ve always loved the look of bigger tires on a steel bike.
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06-09-19, 08:34 PM
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I think so. It was on the way up Logan Mill Road, kicked my ass. We had done Sunshine Canyon and Seven Hills, then down Poorman and were heading up Four Mile, but got turned back by construction so did Logan Mill and down Sugarloaf. Ended up with 3,000 feet of climbing on a day I wasn't entirely prepared for it.
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I forgot to mention you have a nice bike too.
I haven't been up there in a couple of years. I used to go camping up in that area a lot. We'd come in through Divide.
Between the altitude and all the hills I'm not sure I'd be able to ride very far up in that area.
I haven't been up there in a couple of years. I used to go camping up in that area a lot. We'd come in through Divide.
Between the altitude and all the hills I'm not sure I'd be able to ride very far up in that area.
06-10-19, 07:40 PM
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Coming along slowly but is a fun experience.
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06-11-19, 06:13 PM
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