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Old 04-26-12, 06:39 AM
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Strava Privacy/distance

I have a commute to work that's almost exactly 7 miles each way, and have Strava set up to conceal my route for a 1 mile radius around each location. When it does this, does it discount the distance traveled within those two radii, or just not show the map info?
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Only one of those options is sensible, so it's that one.
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You know the distance so this should be pretty simple. It's a 7 mile ride, does Strava show 5 miles or 7 miles?
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There's a setting in strava to obscure your home and work by some radius to avoid being stalked/jumped. That might be the missing mile.

Edit: oh, you already know this, why don't you go for a ride and report back? It's only 7 miles, you can be there and back online in an hour.
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Weird, I'd never thought about that but I guess if someone really wanted to know exactly where I live, they could just find me on strava based on the origination and endpoint of nearly all my rides and plot maniacally to steal my bike or something. Good thing I live in a huge complex so the map doesn't tell the whole story.
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Old 04-26-12, 07:22 AM
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What'll they think of next.
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I'm not bent out of shape over this or anything, just curious. And I have ridden the route, but as I don't have a cadence sensor on this bike, the GPS readings aren't terribly consistent. Not a big deal.
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I use the house concealing thing, but I upload some rides to facebook, and there are some people I don't want knowing where I live.

I don't think strava cuts off the distance. I once sprinted past my house to "35" mph, and it showed my top speed for the ride as 35mph, however if you followed the little speed graph, it ended right before my house at about 15mph. At no point on the time line did it show me doing 35, but showed it in the overall data, which leaves me comfortable assuming it is including the ghosted data.
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It's cool. We won't make fun of you because you work at McDonalds and live in da hood, just unhide them.
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It's Carl's Jr, ya jerk!

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I use this feature on Strava, and the distance is real, the map is just modified. If a stalker wants to find me on Strava, it will take quite a canvass.

Yes, I worry about privacy online. A LOT. No Facebook, Twitter or other means of knowing more than you should about me. It concerns me that it doesn't concern more people.
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Originally Posted by bobones
Only one of those options is sensible, so it's that one.
You've clearly never worked in the software industry.
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What exactly is someone going to do with the information that some person on strava lives at a certain address? Are you afriad they are going to pull your name out of the phone book as well? Do you have stalkers?
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Originally Posted by JSMaxwell
What exactly is someone going to do with the information that some person on strava lives at a certain address? Are you afriad they are going to pull your name out of the phone book as well? Do you have stalkers?
Don't know about where you live, but criminals around here do not limit themselves to tools within their 'jurisdiction.' Using the interwebs to locate someone is far easier than looking it up in a phone book. What is this, 1979?

Ask any woman, or anyONE for that matter who has been stalked if they would publish their phone book info on Facebook, Twitter or any other form of social media (including Strava). I doubt you would find one who thought this was a good idea.
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Originally Posted by Dolamite02
I'm not bent out of shape over this or anything, just curious. And I have ridden the route, but as I don't have a cadence sensor on this bike, the GPS readings aren't terribly consistent. Not a big deal.
I have to ask, what does a cadence sensor have to do with GPS readings?
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Originally Posted by LowCel
I have to ask, what does a cadence sensor have to do with GPS readings?
With a cadence/speed sensor, the distance is calculated based on the wheel circumference and speed. Without it, my Garmin defaults to the less accurate GPS speed readings. If it takes me a bit to get up to speed for the sattalite to notice, it shows me as having jumped through space. As a result, it shows me with a max speed of 34.8 on my 40+lb bike. I sure as hell wasn't sprinting that tank around town.

As a result of that and spotty GPS, my distance won't be as accurate or consistent.
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GPS always has some error in it, and those errors accumulate over a long ride.

Cadence sensors commonly track wheel speed as well, and because they provide an exact count of wheel revolutions (and because bikes rarely encounter wheelspin or lock) the speed/distance count can be used to correct the GPS error.

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Originally Posted by JSMaxwell
What exactly is someone going to do with the information that some person on strava lives at a certain address? Are you afriad they are going to pull your name out of the phone book as well? Do you have stalkers?
The police have a neighborhood watch program out here; it sent my landlord (and several others) a note about how there have been a string of break ins in our area, and that the thieves are stealing bikes. Among other things, like banking papers.

Thieves were the first ones to dream up identity theft - don't underestimate their creativity. Don't lose any sleep over it, either, though.
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Originally Posted by RTDub
I use this feature on Strava, and the distance is real, the map is just modified. If a stalker wants to find me on Strava, it will take quite a canvass.

Yes, I worry about privacy online. A LOT. No Facebook, Twitter or other means of knowing more than you should about me. It concerns me that it doesn't concern more people.
If you're concerned about privacy, why put the data online at all? There are desktop apps that can get you pretty much the same things (maps and analysis of your rides) minus the "available to anyone who asks for it" feature.
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i just start my stava app in the driveway of a random home in my neighborhood each time, but knowing thieves may come after me, i'll start using the driveways of the ultra rich mansions a few miles down the street.
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Ask any woman, or anyONE for that matter who has been stalked if they would publish their phone book info on Facebook, Twitter or any other form of social media (including Strava). I doubt you would find one who thought this was a good idea.
I know literally dozens of women whose phone numbers are linked to their FB accounts, and when I friend them on FB their contact info magically appears in my phone. And I am not a young kid by any means.
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Originally Posted by JSMaxwell
What exactly is someone going to do with the information that some person on strava lives at a certain address? Are you afriad they are going to pull your name out of the phone book as well? Do you have stalkers?
If you can't figure out how to maliciously use information about what kind of bike you ride, where you live and a general trend of when you're not home, you need to get your imagination fixed.
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Originally Posted by Dolamite02
With a cadence/speed sensor, the distance is calculated based on the wheel circumference and speed. Without it, my Garmin defaults to the less accurate GPS speed readings. If it takes me a bit to get up to speed for the sattalite to notice, it shows me as having jumped through space. As a result, it shows me with a max speed of 34.8 on my 40+lb bike. I sure as hell wasn't sprinting that tank around town.

As a result of that and spotty GPS, my distance won't be as accurate or consistent.
Guys I ride with have Garmin 500's with speed / cadence sensors. I have a 705 with either a Quarq crank or a PowerTap, no speed sensors. Our distances are almost always within 0.1 miles of each other after 50 or 60 miles. Close enough for me.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
If you're concerned about privacy, why put the data online at all? There are desktop apps that can get you pretty much the same things (maps and analysis of your rides) minus the "available to anyone who asks for it" feature.
For the very simple reason that I can aggregate my data without use of a spreadsheet and manual entry.

And this does not require a download or local collection/risk on my PC. I said I was concerned, not paranoid
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Golden Cheetah is free, and it'll aggregate your data, and slice and dice it as you like, without a spreadsheet or any more manual entry than Garmin Connect. That's how I figure out how much elevation I've done in a month or year or whatever. I only put the rides I want to show people online.
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