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Old 03-09-19, 11:37 AM
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What has become of this Basso?


I picked this up today mainly for the wheelset and bars. Rough shape, looks like it was somewhat set up for a gravel bike.

Rattle canned black but I can make out Basso decals underneath. Any guesses on model? Has brazeon for racks.



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Old 03-09-19, 11:48 AM
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that's interesting geometry for a Basso. Maybe a cx frame originally?

do you want me to move this to the main C&V forum?
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Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
that's interesting geometry for a Basso. Maybe a cx frame originally?

do you want me to move this to the main C&V forum?

Whoops! Please, thatís where I meant to post. Sorry
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Old 03-09-19, 11:50 AM
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I'm disappointed this isn't for sale

Also looks like the brake cables might be cut too short
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Old 03-09-19, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by GrainBrain View Post
I'm disappointed this isn't for sale

Also looks like the brake cables might be cut too short
Iím pretty sure they werenít cut at all. One size fits all right?
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I hate to be 'that girl', but is this really a Basso? Sure it has Basso decals under the rattle can but those funky rack brazeons. The seat stays look pretty chunky at the seat cluster even for a Alle frame. Any other pics? Did all Basso frames have the Basso dropouts?

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Old 03-09-19, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
I hate to be 'that girl', but is this really a Basso? Sure it has Basso decals under the rattle can but those funky rack brazeons. The seat stays look pretty chunky at the seat cluster even for a Alle frame. Any other pics? Did all Basso frames have the Basso dropouts?


You may be right. Iím definitely no Basso expert. I merely wanted the mavic rims, campy hubs, and wide nitto bars. The price was cheap. Although it is at the low end of my size, so technically I could ride it.

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More pics. More headscratching. Bridgestone front dropouts, Suntour rear dropouts. Total grab bag of components.

Iím guessing mid eighties at least (whatever it is) with the bolt on plastic cable guide under bottom bracket.








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Seatpost is 26.6 but loose in the tube, itís probably at least a 26.8. I donít have one on hand to test fit
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moved here from sales.

It sure looks like the frame is Japanese. The geometry makes a lot more sense. My guess is that the brazeons were added later. Either during the bassofication or before the rattle can
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Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
moved here from sales.

It sure looks like the frame is Japanese. The geometry makes a lot more sense.
A rare Japanese Basso
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Bridgestone, perhaps?
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Originally Posted by horatio View Post
Bridgestone, perhaps?
The front dropouts certainly make that plausible. Unless the fork isnít original.
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seems to me that the front and back dropout engraving would match if the fork was original. But I know next to nothing about Bridgestones
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No way that is a Basso.

Seat stay caps are all wrong and no Basso had any mounts for wracks. And yes, dropouts should be Basso. The least tubing Basso used was Tre Tubi SL and they worked up from there, so the seatpost size is another no-go for Basso.
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"Got anything for a 6' guy with a 28" inseam and really long cables flopping around in my face?"

"As a matter of fact ..."

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Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
"Got anything for a 6' guy with a 28" inseam and really long cables flopping around in my face?"

"As a matter of fact ..."
It's a niche market
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I sanded down a bit of the rattle can job, it's definitely this set/style. Well placed and over a previous black paint job.

https://www.velocals.com/basso-bicycle-decal-set/
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What a weird frame to have rack brazeons, under down tube water bottle mount, double rear eyelits and vertical drops - but no cantilever posts? Since it's cruddy out and I've been dreaming of a touring build I've been looking at online images but no luck. Although I have been hungup on the idea of it being a Zunow, though it's too "plain". I got the idea from this forum member Vonruden and his bike from the Japanese touring thread:
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Zunow Sports Tourer


​​​​​​​I think your best bet is what you've been doing and keep sanding!
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What a weird frame to have rack brazeons, under down tube water bottle mount, double rear eyelits and vertical drops - but no cantilever posts?
I looks like someone hacked off the canti posts. But the under down tube bottle bosses, if original, have thrown me for a loop trying to guess make/model. Iím not really invested in the frame. I may do something with it, or I may move it along. I havenít decided yet.
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I knew it, I was going to ask if they cutoff the cantilever mounts. Ok then I say it's probably a Schwinn Voyager SP. I found this post from The Golden Boy:

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Really surprised this thread hasn't gotten a lot of traction...

I accidentally bumped into a cherry 1984 Schwinn Voyageur SP. This is a Panasonic built bike- the frame is a Columbus SL and SP mix. This bike was built with THE finest, top of the line in road, touring and mountain bike components made in 1984. It's also interesting that this is a completely Shimano free build. I've swapped a few things out here and there (the handlebars were bent in shipping), but it's really a fantastic riding bike. It has an entirely different feel from my Trek tourers, but it's a great riding bike.













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so that means the fork was replaced?
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I knew it, I was going to ask if they cutoff the cantilever mounts. Ok then I say it's probably a Schwinn Voyager SP.
Hmm. Iím not so sure, although there are definitely similarities there. But, there are no bottle cage bosses on my seat tube.

I did throw it back together for a quick ride. The Suntour LePree worked flawlessly. Interesting riding a road bike with the 37s that came on it, Iíve never tried tires that wide before.
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Originally Posted by GrainBrain View Post
I knew it, I was going to ask if they cutoff the cantilever mounts. Ok then I say it's probably a Schwinn Voyager SP. I found this post from The Golden Boy:


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It sure has the look of a post 79 but pre 84 tourer- long chainstays, cantilevers, under the down tube bottle mount, no mid fork mount, dual eyelets on the dropouts and fork ends...

The rack mounts are the threaded tab of metal, rather than the threaded barrels brazed to the says.

If it had the brazed on rear cable hanger it would look like a 1981-ish Miyata 1000. I don't know about the SN system Miyata was using- but look into the Miyata/Univega angle. Those style of rack mounts were a little more uncommon- from what I've seen in tourers.


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Is there any indication that there might have been wire-style chainstay guard on this frame? Does the rear triangle also have braze-on removal damage?

If so, my educated guess would be a Bridgestone Antares LDT. Vertical rear drops, geometry, and water bottle configuration match up.


The 1983 Bridgestone T500 is also a close match, but the fork crown in the closeup differs from the OP's bike. For that matter, the fork crown in the main picture doesn't look quite like the closeup either.


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