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Fair enough. On a completely unrelated note I had a fantastic ride tonight. I just re-geared to 46-16 (from 42), and I ran into one of the riders from a local club that smoked me a couple of weeks ago. We were pushing 24.5 for a few miles, and I think I actually made him sweat for a bit. If he hadn't turned off my route I think I would have died within 5 minutes, but I did knock a minute and a half off my fastest time, so today was a good day. Tomorrow its going to raid in from 4am for 26 hours. Not so great, since I may have to drive to work. Meh.
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I'm not against putting an S300 on a sub $1K bike, but it has no business being used on a $1600 bike like that Felt, which deserves something higher quality such as an Omnonom. It would be the same problem if they put an Andel on it, which I like on my cheaper FG bikes like the Leader 721tr, but wouldn't dream of using on the Pista Concept. Consider that the Felt TK2, which also has an MSRP of $1600 does in fact come with Omnonoms.
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Who cares about the difference between omnium and s300? They have the exact same bottom bracket, the weight difference is around 50 grams, and their difference in stiffness is negligible (https://www.bikesportmichigan.com/reviews/crank.shtml). The only thing you're paying $100 extra dollars for is the 144 bcd and some bling.
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Wonderful! I was thinking the same. If you are in good shape, that will certainly help your top speed. I like 42x16 for commuting. Good acceleration and braking, and good practice spinning. I can hold 20mph all day long with it. It ain't a top speed gear though. 24mph is a lot of rpm to hold for that gear.
Fair enough. On a completely unrelated note I had a fantastic ride tonight. I just re-geared to 46-16 (from 42), and I ran into one of the riders from a local club that smoked me a couple of weeks ago. We were pushing 24.5 for a few miles, and I think I actually made him sweat for a bit. If he hadn't turned off my route I think I would have died within 5 minutes, but I did knock a minute and a half off my fastest time, so today was a good day. Tomorrow its going to raid in from 4am for 26 hours. Not so great, since I may have to drive to work. Meh.
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Wonderful! I was thinking the same. If you are in good shape, that will certainly help your top speed. I like 42x16 for commuting. Good acceleration and braking, and good practice spinning. I can hold 20mph all day long with it. It ain't a top speed gear though. 24mph is a lot of rpm to hold for that gear.
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My ironman idiot wanted to do a steady 18mph, and went slow uphill to keep his heart rate down so that wasn't a problem. FG downhill can be a problem with a fast geared bike, but SS isn't a problem as I just draft tight. Cogs are not too expensive - it might have been cheaper to do a 42x15 than a 46x16, practically the same gear.
Enjoy the Langster!
Enjoy the Langster!
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My ironman idiot wanted to do a steady 18mph, and went slow uphill to keep his heart rate down so that wasn't a problem. FG downhill can be a problem with a fast geared bike, but SS isn't a problem as I just draft tight. Cogs are not too expensive - it might have been cheaper to do a 42x15 than a 46x16, practically the same gear.
Enjoy the Langster!
Enjoy the Langster!
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For the intended application and at that price point, it may be suitable to go for a TI road frame and eno hub.
It seems that you're already dead-emeat-set on a SS carbon complete, but might as well go for dual purpose. Not completely sure what you're training for, but if it's crits, boom, you have a back up---your trainer---set up of course.
TI will treat you well, if not better than carbon and will certainly outlast it. There's just nothing really tempting to the Felt Footprint from this perspective. Could just as easily go custom steel frame, or second-hand TI complete.
And I'm just postulating that you have a fully stocked parts bin.
It seems that you're already dead-emeat-set on a SS carbon complete, but might as well go for dual purpose. Not completely sure what you're training for, but if it's crits, boom, you have a back up---your trainer---set up of course.
TI will treat you well, if not better than carbon and will certainly outlast it. There's just nothing really tempting to the Felt Footprint from this perspective. Could just as easily go custom steel frame, or second-hand TI complete.
And I'm just postulating that you have a fully stocked parts bin.
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He doesn't sound too bright. 24mph in an Iron Man? He is going to blow up and never finish the marathon. He definately needs to pace himself.
Nope, there are no 15 tooth freewheels available. There actually have been rumors of one, but no one has actualy seen it (rather like bigfoot IMHO). There really isn't enough room for the free wheel assembly inside of 15 teeth.
I try to ride at 100rpm and sprint around 130 (and top out around 180 downhill)
42x16 @ 100rpm = 21.1mph
46x16 @ 100rpm = 23.0mph
so you have in effect added an easy 2mph to your cruising speed, and 3mph to your top speed with that gearing (assuming you have the strength to turn the cranks at that speed). That is why 24mph is a lot more attainable for you.
:-)
Nope, there are no 15 tooth freewheels available. There actually have been rumors of one, but no one has actualy seen it (rather like bigfoot IMHO). There really isn't enough room for the free wheel assembly inside of 15 teeth.
I try to ride at 100rpm and sprint around 130 (and top out around 180 downhill)
42x16 @ 100rpm = 21.1mph
46x16 @ 100rpm = 23.0mph
so you have in effect added an easy 2mph to your cruising speed, and 3mph to your top speed with that gearing (assuming you have the strength to turn the cranks at that speed). That is why 24mph is a lot more attainable for you.
:-)
I really don't think my idiot is that bright. Quite fast though. I suppose both of those attributes probably go with the territory. I couldn't find a 15T freewheel that would fit - one probably exists somewhere, but it was easier (though not cheaper) to just suck it up and get the chainring.
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Are you coming on to me?
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What a man chooses to do in the privacy of his own home with a can of lube, a carbon fiber frame and a beernutz tool is his own damn business. Neither you, my neighbors, the police or the bucket of soapy frogs gets to judge me.
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And turn into a man apparently - this is actually a woman. Can't argue with the rest though, but it's her race - I just ride around with her occasionally and try to keep up.
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The FOOTPRINT is 120mm O.L.D. The rear dropouts can be split at the seat stays so you could run a belt if you preferred. The bike use a full carbon frame as well as a monocoque carbon fork. We sell a simiilar road frame for $1500. Thats for the frame only. The S300 crankset is used because of restrictions on "sharp" chainrings. The bike is sold as CPSC compliant, track bikes are not. The S300 is avaialble with the guard the Omnium is not, neither are any other SRAM cranks except the less expensive S100/150 or Truvative options. The S300 is also used in a BB30 version on our $3500 'cross bike.
Certainly there are other options for single speed bicycles and arguments can be made for the "best value for your $1600" ad nauseam.
I have a Footprint frame built up with some older Zipp cranks, Ritchey cockpit, and a light saddle. It is just under 15 pounds and retains the stock wheels. I leave the bottle opener at home also.
It is a unique bike to be sure.
-SD
Certainly there are other options for single speed bicycles and arguments can be made for the "best value for your $1600" ad nauseam.
I have a Footprint frame built up with some older Zipp cranks, Ritchey cockpit, and a light saddle. It is just under 15 pounds and retains the stock wheels. I leave the bottle opener at home also.
It is a unique bike to be sure.
-SD
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Certainly looks like an interesting bike, and a better value than the $3500 Treck District Carbon! Now if there was just a way to get a test drive...
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If someone from Felt happened to know if there was a dealer somewhere near Philly that had one to try out (56, if I was being all specific and stuff), I could definitely be convinced to take a look.
Otherwise I'm going to start putting new bits onto my Specialized - it's a proven fact that the dust that builds up on old components makes you go up to 10mph slower. Lance Armstrong always has a clean bike - coincidence?
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