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Old 06-12-17, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by globecanvas
(a) You won a 50+ CT state crit medal right? Are you embarrassed about it or something, I think it's awesome!

(b) Bumblebee guy's front wheel also appears to be 50+
I did win the silver. It's almost embarrassing because it's been the one thing I've been good at, placing at New Britain without winning. I have a lot of state medals (8? I can go count) with zero wins. I'll be happy the year I actually win the race outright. It's also the easiest course for a "sit and sprint" rider, easier than even Bethel, so I have the best "enterlace" ratio there.

I overheard him talking about wheels to someone else. Apparently some of those wheels are brand new. His rear wheel is arriving any day now, according to that conversation.
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Old 06-13-17, 09:29 AM
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Hurting in a doomed 2-man break on a fast non-technical crit course (Driveway Speed Loop in Austin, TX) on my birthday. We lasted a few laps and I got a prime...which I forgot to collect!

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Old 06-28-17, 06:00 PM
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Dont have a picture but these are hilarious.
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Brandon's mom - Vickie Batchelder McNulty takes nice pictures of my kid and others. She posted these to Facebook.
These are from the U23 race.

Daniel (White LUX kit) bridged up to the chase with some 20 pros or so. The 3 riders had been alone for 2 hour on the front and a few chases had got a couple min gap, then failed. Daniel made an effort, a counter, that result created an asplosion - where he got dispatched backwards, and resulted in 7 mini chase groups.

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Not so much suffering...
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Some Sunday U23 Crit....

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I'm suffering all right... Suffering because I wish I had fixed up my track bike in time

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Old 07-13-17, 07:58 AM
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I found some great photos of the giro del cielo but they are on a website that requires you to enter your email to see the photos, and are watermarked with "DO NOT COPY." I wish the photographer the best of luck in his or her endeavors.
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Old 07-13-17, 10:48 AM
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the name entering thing is definitely annoying (I get it, she wants to know who's visiting), but you have to enter it every time you visit...

i don't mind people posting watermarks. They are the ones showing up and taking the time to stand in the sun/rain to take pictures so we can have some mementos afterwards. If it helps cover their expenses so that they'll be at other races, all the better.

That said, the prices have climbed a bit. I ponied up for it as I need to know what aero faux-pas i'm committing, but $10 for a low-res pic and $20 for a high-res? Yikes. $7.50 and $15 for low and high-res would perhaps be more palatable.

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Old 07-13-17, 10:59 AM
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Watermarks are great! Watermarked photos that say who took the photo are a great way to share cool photos with a clear way to identify who took the photo if anyone wants to buy a print.

The "DO NOT COPY" watermark along with the sign-in, though, is saying "you can only look at these photos here," which imo is not so great.
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Old 07-13-17, 11:05 AM
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BTW @echappist you might be confusing "bike race pics" with "bicycle racing pictures" maybe? The former is the ultra-secure photographer who I think is a guy (at least that's who I saw taking the photos during the race), the latter is a much more share-friendly woman who is a mainstay at NYC area races.
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I thought you were referring to the former and was commenting on the former (as she was at Cielo). She's from south NJ (across the river from Philly), and her husband is a M45/Cat-3 racer with a load of points to cat-2. I've raced with him once when we broke away with one other at NJ State RR. You probably saw him taking photos?

The "Do Not Copy" thing doesn't bother me. We as bike racers seem to almost demand access to pictures as a matter of right, yet someone has to stand there in the heat for hours to shoot the photos. We give a throw-away credit line to the photographer, but there no actual compensation. If the "Do Not Copy" brings in a bit of income for her, then all the better.

Was there anyone else shooting at Cielo this year?
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Old 07-13-17, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by echappist
The "Do Not Copy" thing doesn't bother me. We as bike racers seem to almost demand access to pictures as a matter of right, yet someone has to stand there in the heat for hours to shoot the photos. We give a throw-away credit line to the photographer, but there no actual compensation. If the "Do Not Copy" brings in a bit of income for her, then all the better.

I mean, the photographer can and should do whatever they want to share or protect their photos. This is really just my opinion on DRM in general -- images, music, software, etc.

I think letting people share watermarked photos creates good will, increases the exposure of the photos, and ultimately generates more income for the photographer. Trying to prevent any sharing of photos, even watermarked, is extra work on the photographer's part and if anything it decreases income. My 2c.

Were you at Cielo? I didn't see your name in the TT results.
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Old 07-13-17, 03:45 PM
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I think what you proposed would be the happy medium btwn free-flowing and restrict access.

I sat out as I was having knee issues. I'm worse than the average triathlete when I'm on my TT bike, and not having pre-ridden the course would have been bad. I'll have to meet up with you and @theKillerPenguin another time.

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Old 07-14-17, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mike868y
"ah **** why are we on the short guys wheel?"

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is that you in the GF kit?
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Old 07-14-17, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jdms mvp
is that you in the GF kit?
No he's the little guy in front.
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Off the front solo for 4.5 of the last 5 (0.7 mile) laps, hurting. Got caught right before the sprint, at least I gave it a go.

I need to work on getting lower when I'm really cranking like that - but the form tends to fall apart when fatigue sets in:

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Originally Posted by TMonk
Off the front solo for 4.5 of the last 5 (0.7 mile) laps, hurting. Got caught right before the sprint, at least I gave it a go.

I need to work on getting lower when I'm really cranking like that - but the form tends to fall apart when fatigue sets in:
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Yeah, I might need to practice that one a bit more... I even have some skateboard deck tape on the tops of the (aero) road drops for that reason
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Originally Posted by TMonk
I need to work on getting lower when I'm really cranking like that - but the form tends to fall apart when fatigue sets in:
I wonder how much that really matters. Sure it might help a little, but I doubt it would make or break your break attempt.

Watch the Tour; plenty of guys ride just like that all the time.
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Ya, and I was 0.5 lap down on the win, not a wheel's worth
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yeah but if you're lower and further ahead there is more dissonance behind you about who's going to chase and you stick it.
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hmm, also a possibility.
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Not a photo of me or by me. This doesn't look like a very aero way to to IAB to me, but what do I know, the guy won Ft Lee today OTF solo by a ton.

Photo by the incomparable Bicycle Racing Pictures (here and here and here).

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Now here is some hot IAB action! (also by BRP)

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Originally Posted by globecanvas
Not a photo of me or by me. This doesn't look like a very aero way to to IAB to me, but what do I know, the guy won Ft Lee today OTF solo by a ton.

Photo by the incomparable Bicycle Racing Pictures (here and here and here).
I've seen people use this position before, and I've tried it, but it is always so uncomfortable. My wrists just don't bend that way. Maybe it's due to a high-school injury, but I'm so much more comfortable (and controlled) in a "standard" IAB position.

Also, it keeps the elbows tucked in more which is ~probably~ faster.
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Originally Posted by globecanvas
Not a photo of me or by me. This doesn't look like a very aero way to to IAB to me, but what do I know, the guy won Ft Lee today OTF solo by a ton.
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Those look like round bars. As the IAB is usually forearms on bars that may be why it looks non-standard, maybe forearms on those bars hurt too much.
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