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Old 06-25-20, 12:22 PM
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Brooks toe-clip curiosity/flaw

Have just been re-building a 1983 Raleigh Gran Sport, took the toe clips off for a good scrub.

Have a look - the logos and the size markings are on opposite sides of the clip:






(Please, no jokes about one being for the other side of the bicycle, if it was then all the words would be spelt sdrawkcab.)
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That's hilarious. Finest quality control in the best British tradition. "Time for a pint, mate." It's good laughs, and it's not like they won't work now...
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One was simply put into the forming die, upside down. The Europeans would look at it as an error but functional and pass it on to t he shipping department. The Japanese would have considered it defective and thrown it into the scrap bin.

I had Carlton brake lever hoods with the logo upside-down. Someone simply rotated the logo insert when installing it in the mould. A Japanese company would likely have polarized the insert and mould, so that they could only be assembled in one way, thus preventing this error from ever happening.

There are some disciplines of collecting, where some types Quality Control errors are considered to be rare "variations" and are much more valuable than correct product. However, I doubt these toe clips would fall into that category.
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The fellow putting those into the forming die did so late in the afternoon and had stopped off at the local pub at lunch time and had a few pints.

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Edit: I wonder, if like mistamped coins, those are more vluable? LOL VBEG
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My guess is that the logo and size were stamped on the sheet before it was bent to "toeclip" shape, perhaps before the toeclip was cut out of a whole sheet. Thus, one piece just happened to go through the bending/drilling/riveting process upside down. No biggie; in fact pretty good find, in my book.
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Originally Posted by Salamandrine
That's hilarious. Finest quality control in the best British tradition. "Time for a pint, mate." It's good laughs, and it's not like they won't work now...
More like "that's enough pints for you, mate!"
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
One was simply put into the forming die, upside down. The Europeans would look at it as an error but functional and pass it on to t he shipping department. The Japanese would have considered it defective and thrown it into the scrap bin.

I had Carlton brake lever hoods with the logo upside-down. Someone simply rotated the logo insert when installing it in the mould. A Japanese company would likely have polarized the insert and mould, so that they could only be assembled in one way, thus preventing this error from ever happening.

There are some disciplines of collecting, where some types Quality Control errors are considered to be rare "variations" and are much more valuable than correct product. However, I doubt these toe clips would fall into that category.
That's interesting- I had an SR Royal stem that had the stamp off-center. It drove me bonkers looking at it- and it was right in front of you the entire time you're riding... I think John Thompson has it now...
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My personal touchstones for supposed Japanese superiority in manfracturing prowess are the Nitto "GRAND RANDONEUR" and Sakae "RANDNNER" bars. Which they've made in the thousands (perhaps millions) and for all I know have never corrected. Those were due to a couple fleeting bad moments in the boardroom and QC office followed by decades of either arrogance or inability to self-critique, not an isolated incident on the fabrication line.
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Belongs with all those SunTour Spirt front derailleurs and Shimano Titlist rear derailleurs.
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In the case of proper names for companies, brands or products, any spelling chosen by the company is deemed correct. Often, in such cases, apparently incorrect spellings are intentional, as it increases recognition. However, in the case of Spirt and TItlist, both are acceptable alternative spellings.
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Numismatists place high values on one of a kind "defects".
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Originally Posted by Salamandrine
That's hilarious. Finest quality control in the best British tradition. "Time for a pint, mate." It's good laughs, and it's not like they won't work now...
Must have been a Friday toeclip!
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