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#201
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Lots of good information on this thread. I was in between two bikes and I think I am going to go with the 2018 Renegade Exploit.
Anything I should know before committing? I haven't been able to test ride the bike as none of the shops near me have one available.
Any arguments for going up from the exploit to the escapade?
The differences I see are:
-WTB i23 Frequency Team i23 disc rims vs. WTB i23 STS disc rims
-Ultegra vs. 105,
-Saddles are different
-Overall weight is almost 2 lbs lighter on the escapade.
Anything I should know before committing? I haven't been able to test ride the bike as none of the shops near me have one available.
Any arguments for going up from the exploit to the escapade?
The differences I see are:
-WTB i23 Frequency Team i23 disc rims vs. WTB i23 STS disc rims
-Ultegra vs. 105,
-Saddles are different
-Overall weight is almost 2 lbs lighter on the escapade.
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It'll probably be fine-I'm fussy about such stuff but I'll bet even I could've adjusted to it. I got the Escapade mostly 'cause I wanted to. Rationalizations are fun, eh? They pack a lot of value and performance into this bike at all component levels-hope you enjoy yours!
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Lots of good information on this thread. I was in between two bikes and I think I am going to go with the 2018 Renegade Exploit.
Anything I should know before committing? I haven't been able to test ride the bike as none of the shops near me have one available.
Any arguments for going up from the exploit to the escapade?
The differences I see are:
-WTB i23 Frequency Team i23 disc rims vs. WTB i23 STS disc rims
-Ultegra vs. 105,
-Saddles are different
-Overall weight is almost 2 lbs lighter on the escapade.
Anything I should know before committing? I haven't been able to test ride the bike as none of the shops near me have one available.
Any arguments for going up from the exploit to the escapade?
The differences I see are:
-WTB i23 Frequency Team i23 disc rims vs. WTB i23 STS disc rims
-Ultegra vs. 105,
-Saddles are different
-Overall weight is almost 2 lbs lighter on the escapade.
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I picked up a Renegade Expert today, sort of by accident, to primarily use as a road bike. I couldn't stand the Claris package or bargain basement brakes on my Marin Nicasio commuter anymore so I went to my LBS to see about upgrading the hardware. The Jamis caught my eye, it was the right size frame and they offered me a nice discount. Next thing I know I'm having some 700X28 Continentals put on the Jamis and I retired my Fuji Sportif and robbed the 105 groupset and Avid brakes for the Marin. With the right tires I think the Jamis makes a pretty nice road ride for someone my size. I'm trying to fall asleep but I'm too excited thinking about my morning commute. Instead of clanking along on my Claris equipped Marin (which is still undergoing surgery) I'll be putting the first miles on the Renegade. :-)
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If you've ridden both the 1st gen shimano road hydro shifters and the new Ultegra/Dura ace hydro models, you would know that the new ones are a significant improvement and now in line with the quality and performance of the rest of the 105/Ultegra/DA branded stuff. Considering what the Ultegra 8020 shifters cost, yeah, the $500 is worth it. You also get the new R8000 stuff everything else including rotors which cost significantly more the 5800. When considering the price jump from the Tiagra level Expat to the 105 level Exploit is $1,000, $500 looks like a bargain.
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If you've ridden both the 1st gen shimano road hydro shifters and the new Ultegra/Dura ace hydro models, you would know that the new ones are a significant improvement and now in line with the quality and performance of the rest of the 105/Ultegra/DA branded stuff. Considering what the Ultegra 8020 shifters cost, yeah, the $500 is worth it. You also get the new R8000 stuff everything else including rotors which cost significantly more the 5800. When considering the price jump from the Tiagra level Expat to the 105 level Exploit is $1,000, $500 looks like a bargain.
now I am second guessing my decision.
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I picked up my new Escapade late last week and got in a couple of good shakedown rides this weekend! I like this bike, with a few parts swaps it fits and suits me well, and I like the way it rides and handles. It's not particularly light but it'll do for my purposes. I think it's a keeper!
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I picked up my new Escapade late last week and got in a couple of good shakedown rides this weekend! I like this bike, with a few parts swaps it fits and suits me well, and I like the way it rides and handles. It's not particularly light but it'll do for my purposes. I think it's a keeper!
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Sweet! Love those tires!
I picked up my new Escapade late last week and got in a couple of good shakedown rides this weekend! I like this bike, with a few parts swaps it fits and suits me well, and I like the way it rides and handles. It's not particularly light but it'll do for my purposes. I think it's a keeper!
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Here's the new bike
Added some new tires - WTB Rambler 42mm barely fit in the rear (had to sand the tread down just a little bit.) I'll probably go with 40s next time. She rides great though.
Added some new tires - WTB Rambler 42mm barely fit in the rear (had to sand the tread down just a little bit.) I'll probably go with 40s next time. She rides great though.
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Nice
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I got the Expat, not one of the fancier high end ones talked about here either. Absolutely loving it, going for rides that I never could have imagined on my old Mountain Bike.
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I think that is sweet looking. I want one so bad.
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BKL seems to be a fairly popular destination to fly into from my area.
A lot of people discussing the Expat...did you pick Exile purely from a budget decision or did you want to limit your exposure for your first road style bike? I too am coming from a hybrid and was looking at the Expat or Jari 2.1. An Exile or Jari 2.5 would save a few hundred dollars and if I didn't really like the bike I'm not out as much.
A lot of people discussing the Expat...did you pick Exile purely from a budget decision or did you want to limit your exposure for your first road style bike? I too am coming from a hybrid and was looking at the Expat or Jari 2.1. An Exile or Jari 2.5 would save a few hundred dollars and if I didn't really like the bike I'm not out as much.
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BKL seems to be a fairly popular destination to fly into from my area.
A lot of people discussing the Expat...did you pick Exile purely from a budget decision or did you want to limit your exposure for your first road style bike? I too am coming from a hybrid and was looking at the Expat or Jari 2.1. An Exile or Jari 2.5 would save a few hundred dollars and if I didn't really like the bike I'm not out as much.
A lot of people discussing the Expat...did you pick Exile purely from a budget decision or did you want to limit your exposure for your first road style bike? I too am coming from a hybrid and was looking at the Expat or Jari 2.1. An Exile or Jari 2.5 would save a few hundred dollars and if I didn't really like the bike I'm not out as much.
I test rode both of them when I was shopping a few months back. However, I test rode the Exploit first (which was nowhere near my price range) due to it being already on the floor in my size and ready to roll. I went from the Exploit -> Exile -> Expat.
I ended up on the Expat because it felt (to me) nearly identical to the much pricier Exploit. I felt the Exile was a noticeable drop down in ease of shifting and braking performance. I would have been happy with the Exile as well, though, the deciding factor for me was the LBS willing to take a good percentage off of MSRP because they were the '17 models still in stock.
Best advice I can give is to go out and ride them and see how you feel. I went in expecting to buy an Exile, but for me, I could justify the extra few hundred bucks for the difference in how they felt for me. IT is my first drop bar bike as well, but I also lived with my crappy Diamondback mountain bike for 15 years, so I'm confident I'll get 15+ years out of this bike as well.