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Old 12-08-15, 09:30 PM
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So you do know that a longer spindle might let you use the 105 crank? Spindle length is usually dependent on the cranks, and not the frame. Unless you were trying to get away with using what was already on the bike. Done that before myself.,,,,BD
For sure, but I'm trying to do this with parts on hand. Sort of considering putting it in the velo cheapo thread, but I had to go and get that expensive seatpost. I'll probably try and figure out what length I need later and use the 105 crank again.
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Another quick mockup, starting to come together more:

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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
Another quick mockup, starting to come together more:


Ooooh, that's really coming along nicely!
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
Another quick mockup, starting to come together more:
Looking good.

I like you many times try to get the build done with parts on hand to ride and get to know the bike
to determine if I want to invest more dollars with a few upgrades or pass it on to someone else.

Your Hard Rock looks pretty close to the year of my 1987 22" Hard Rock Comp
but mine had white and pinkish fade paint.

I did commit ( to some a sin) of sanding it down and painting it.

Over several thousand miles the paint has gotten chipped up pretty badly and I have it currently stripped down to bare frame
trying to figure if I want to invest in a powdercoat job. It served as my grocery getter bike with rear rack and basket.

However I have two other project frames in the queue ahead of the Hard Rock Comp.

Did you weigh your frame and fork?
Interesting that mine weighs 6 lbs for frame and 2 lbs for fork for 8 total.
I had another around 90 or so model Hard Rock they must have added some lead filler or something as it weighed 10 lbs total for bare frame and fork.
I did not keep it long.

The next frame up I am excited about and the lightest vintage / rigid mt bike frame I have had after about a dozen is a 1990 Trek 7000. It weighs 6.75 lbs for frame and fork.

I hope you enjoy your Hard Rock as I have enjoyed mine.

My current 'grocery getter' with that rack and basket is a 91 Rockhopper with good paint.

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Originally Posted by cooperryder
Looking good.

I like you many times try to get the build done with parts on hand to ride and get to know the bike
to determine if I want to invest more dollars with a few upgrades or pass it on to someone else.

Your Hard Rock looks pretty close to the year of my 1987 22" Hard Rock Comp
but mine had white and pinkish fade paint.

I did commit ( to some a sin) of sanding it down and painting it.

Over several thousand miles the paint has gotten chipped up pretty badly and I have it currently stripped down to bare frame
trying to figure if I want to invest in a powdercoat job. It served as my grocery getter bike with rear rack and basket.

However I have two other project frames in the queue ahead of the Hard Rock Comp.

Did you weigh your frame and fork?
Interesting that mine weighs 6 lbs for frame and 2 lbs for fork for 8 total.
I had another around 90 or so model Hard Rock they must have added some lead filler or something as it weighed 10 lbs total for bare frame and fork.
I did not keep it long.

The next frame up I am excited about and the lightest vintage / rigid mt bike frame I have had after about a dozen is a 1990 Trek 7000. It weighs 7.75 lbs for frame and fork.

I hope you enjoy your Hard Rock as I have enjoyed mine.

My current 'grocery getter' with that rack and basket is a 91 Rockhopper with good paint.
I did weigh the frame+fork. Mine was also right at 8 pounds. As far as I can tell from old catalogs, they usually made at least one "nice" Rockhopper that would be full Chromo while the others would have Hi-Ten seatstays and chainstays, and maybe a couple of other variances. So my Ultra was the "nice" one for '93 and your '87 Comp probably had a similar tube set.

As much as I've gone back and forth about the paint here, I really REALLY wish it were nicer. Up close, the paint really is amazing, except for the scratch and scuff on every last tube of the bike. It's this beautiful pearl finish on both colors, and I'm actually a big fan of pink. Like I said, I'll probably leave it for the time being, because it really is cool. But if I decide to commit to the frame long term, I'm not going to be able to live with all the chips and scuffs.
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I had an 18" version of that EXACT same frame. I left it with Nitto riser bars, Shimano Rapid Rise? shifters. I sold it to someone who was a little taller than me, but it was fun.

Yours is coming along fine. Keep posting more as you move along
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I'll ask this question here since it seems the most appropriate place and might serve as a useful bit of info for people looking at this thread down the road:

What rims are people using? I was thinking Sun CR18 rims as I need to, at minimum, put a new rim on the rear. Long term, I also need to build a front dynamo wheel. Is there something out there a little bit nicer/lighter then the CR18? The price seems really good, so it might be worth a little bit of a hit on weight, but at 8 pounds for frame and fork, grams add up fast. Let me know what you folks are using.
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
I'll ask this question here since it seems the most appropriate place and might serve as a useful bit of info for people looking at this thread down the road:

What rims are people using? I was thinking Sun CR18 rims as I need to, at minimum, put a new rim on the rear. Long term, I also need to build a front dynamo wheel. Is there something out there a little bit nicer/lighter then the CR18? The price seems really good, so it might be worth a little bit of a hit on weight, but at 8 pounds for frame and fork, grams add up fast. Let me know what you folks are using.
Sun Rhynolites are beefier and wider, if you need t use a wider tire. Lighter? No, but I don't think they're that much heavier, and they cost about the same.
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
I'll ask this question here since it seems the most appropriate place and might serve as a useful bit of info for people looking at this thread down the road:

What rims are people using? I was thinking Sun CR18 rims as I need to, at minimum, put a new rim on the rear. Long term, I also need to build a front dynamo wheel. Is there something out there a little bit nicer/lighter then the CR18? The price seems really good, so it might be worth a little bit of a hit on weight, but at 8 pounds for frame and fork, grams add up fast. Let me know what you folks are using.
I have 3 late 80's/early 90's mountain bikes. The dirt-drop has Mavic XM719's, one has Rhyno Lites, and one has the original Matrix Single Track Pros. I am in the process of building up a dedicated winter bike and plan to use CR18's for that build.
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Sun Rhynolites are beefier and wider, if you need t use a wider tire. Lighter? No, but I don't think they're that much heavier, and they cost about the same.
Rhyno Lites weigh 575g and are 27.5mm wide
CR-18's weigh 440g and are 22.5mm wide

Both pretty good value at around twenty bucks. I would use the Rhyno Lites on a bike that I was planning to use primarily off-road and the CR-18's on a bike that I was planning to use primarily on-road.
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no it's not all pretty like everyone elses but i'm poor.
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
Ok, so you guys did this to me. Picked up this heap for more money than I probably should have ($60) today. Odd situation and I had already talked myself into the bike before I went to look at it knowing that I was going to replace nearly everything on it.



As picked up and pictured there, it weighed a total of 30 pounds. Stripped down, the frame and fork weighed in at 8 pounds. I have a ton of parts bin stuff, including a full late 80's 105 group that will go on the bike. The rear rim was pretty much beyond saving, but I might ride it for a bit. I don't think a single component was original, and the paint is not very good. Lots of chips and scrapes. I've been envisioning a bare metal finish, so that may happen. But the 3.75 year old daughter really likes the pink and purple, so it might stay for a while.

I will try to hack it together over the next week and see if I can get it road worthy with the rear rim situation. We'll see.
I like the pink and purple. keep the paint for ME
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Hi guys I have been messing with this for a little while, I put the wheels off my SS on to see what the tyres looked like and I am hooked.
Sora 3550 2 X 9, waiting on hubs(well cash actually) then I will finish it up
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Thought I should report back with a photo of our matching Dawes, here's a shot from a recent bikecamp we had around the Otways in Victoria (AUS). I've gone with the rat trap pass tyres and some sweet Japanese fenders I took off an Apollo Kosciusko. Not sure the tyres are worth the dollars, but now the money's gone I'm happy to have them, they're pretty freakin nice - comfy but fast.
My girlfriends bike was also lots of fun to put together, nitto moustache, brooks, shwalbes and a tubus rack. Oh and they both have Wald baskets now, which are super convenient for around town.

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My Trek 970 currently 7 speed barends but I have a set of 8 speed tri color brifters for it. It wears 700/35 tires
using homemade spacers to get brake pads to reach the rims, Tektro levers.
The color is actually purple. It's a great ride on streets or trails.
Just realized this photo bike has 26/1.5 tires, taken before I put the road wheels on it.
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Originally Posted by murraysbikes123
Thought I should report back with a photo of our matching Dawes, here's a shot from a recent bikecamp we had around the Otways in Victoria (AUS). I've gone with the rat trap pass tyres and some sweet Japanese fenders I took off an Apollo Kosciusko. Not sure the tyres are worth the dollars, but now the money's gone I'm happy to have them, they're pretty freakin nice - comfy but fast.
My girlfriends bike was also lots of fun to put together, nitto moustache, brooks, shwalbes and a tubus rack. Oh and they both have Wald baskets now, which are super convenient for around town.

That is sweeeeet. The girlfriend says let's go, she was looking at the landscape, me the bikes. What type of holder for the wine bottle?
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Originally Posted by murraysbikes123
Thought I should report back with a photo of our matching Dawes, here's a shot from a recent bikecamp we had around the Otways in Victoria (AUS). I've gone with the rat trap pass tyres and some sweet Japanese fenders I took off an Apollo Kosciusko. Not sure the tyres are worth the dollars, but now the money's gone I'm happy to have them, they're pretty freakin nice - comfy but fast.
My girlfriends bike was also lots of fun to put together, nitto moustache, brooks, shwalbes and a tubus rack. Oh and they both have Wald baskets now, which are super convenient for around town.

Love those. Nice shot and great bikes.
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Originally Posted by murraysbikes123
Thought I should report back with a photo of our matching Dawes, here's a shot from a recent bikecamp we had around the Otways in Victoria (AUS). I've gone with the rat trap pass tyres and some sweet Japanese fenders I took off an Apollo Kosciusko. Not sure the tyres are worth the dollars, but now the money's gone I'm happy to have them, they're pretty freakin nice - comfy but fast.
My girlfriends bike was also lots of fun to put together, nitto moustache, brooks, shwalbes and a tubus rack. Oh and they both have Wald baskets now, which are super convenient for around town.

I love the two tone paint on both! Very nice!
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Well I think my Panasonic Pro-ATB build is complete after adding some Velo Orange fenders. My son and I are planning to tackle a section of the Great Divide Mountain bike route in Colorado next summer and other than some tweaks resulting from some shake down rides next spring I think it is ready. It weighs in higher than I'd like but for a SUV beast of burden I guess it will have to do.





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The Panasonic is everything that I'd dream of with one of these builds. Hat tipped. That is too cool for words!,,,,BD
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Well I think my Panasonic Pro-ATB build is complete after adding some Velo Orange fenders.
Got any info on that stem?
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Got any info on that stem?
This is all I have on it. I like it because of the two bolt clamp and ability to easily remove bars.

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The Panasonic is everything that I'd dream of with one of these builds. Hat tipped. That is too cool for words!,,,,BD
I really appreciate your comments BD! It was a fun project and I'm very pleased on how it turned out and rides. Strictly for cosmetic reasons I'd like to find a silver version of the front rack but I guess this one will work fine. I have a black rear rack I can use but it has mounting straps and I like the clean look of the direct mount this one has.
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It weighs in higher than I'd like but for a SUV beast of burden I guess it will have to do.
Well, that's a pretty stylish SUV! I really appreciate all the little details on this build. And the black, tan, and brown really works. I'm trying to choose between sks and vo for fender right now for an upcoming build. Did you go for aluminum or stainless? Great job; just looks like a super-usable bike.
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That cleaned up real nice. Well done.
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