Colomb ladies bike. Oscar Egg lugs? Save it?
02-24-20, 06:47 AM
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Colomb ladies bike. Oscar Egg lugs? Save it?
Hi everyone,
i finally had some time to clean up my workshop.
this was my pile off garbage and scrap metal. And underneath this pile was this frame:
It's one off the bikes I found in a field in France a few years ago. It was in bad shape and I made the decision then to scrap it.
But looking at it now I'm not sure anymore.... some close ups off the bike:
this repair off the frame has me worried...
What do you guys think?
i finally had some time to clean up my workshop.
this was my pile off garbage and scrap metal. And underneath this pile was this frame:
It's one off the bikes I found in a field in France a few years ago. It was in bad shape and I made the decision then to scrap it.
But looking at it now I'm not sure anymore.... some close ups off the bike:
this repair off the frame has me worried...
What do you guys think?
02-24-20, 07:51 AM
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if you can get the crankset off, it might clean up to make nice wall art.
Too much work (for me) for a mixte with at least one compromised tube.
But the story you write about trying to make rideable could be worth reading.
So, as a lesson for the rest of us - Go For It.
edit: what about the wooden wheels? assume they are warped.
A wise showman once told me - 'It only takes one show stopper to stop the show!'
Too much work (for me) for a mixte with at least one compromised tube.
But the story you write about trying to make rideable could be worth reading.
So, as a lesson for the rest of us - Go For It.
edit: what about the wooden wheels? assume they are warped.
A wise showman once told me - 'It only takes one show stopper to stop the show!'
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02-24-20, 09:21 AM
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Agree with Wildwood on this.
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02-24-20, 10:26 AM
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Nice longboard?
The downtube looks sketchy. Maybe repair from an accident?
I'm of the mind, "always save it!" where reasonable. I have no doubt soaking it in Oxalic Acid bath would probably resolve the rust issues, but not knowing what was up with the downtube would always bother me and leave me a bit concerned about someone riding it.
Fortunately I don't think everyone is lawsuit-happy over there as they are over here in the US, but ...
I have no doubt based on other field bikes you posted, you'd definitely do a fine job bringing it back to life in a tasteful way.
The downtube looks sketchy. Maybe repair from an accident?
I'm of the mind, "always save it!" where reasonable. I have no doubt soaking it in Oxalic Acid bath would probably resolve the rust issues, but not knowing what was up with the downtube would always bother me and leave me a bit concerned about someone riding it.
Fortunately I don't think everyone is lawsuit-happy over there as they are over here in the US, but ...
I have no doubt based on other field bikes you posted, you'd definitely do a fine job bringing it back to life in a tasteful way.
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02-24-20, 10:36 AM
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Send it to gugie.
Let him replace the downtube as practice.
I do find the frame attractive.
even if that repair is sleeved, danger.
Let him replace the downtube as practice.
I do find the frame attractive.
even if that repair is sleeved, danger.
02-24-20, 06:25 PM
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Love that front brake hanger.
Wonder if joint of laterals to upper head lug had to be done this way because Herr Oscar did not offer an upper head lug for mixte designs. Does anyone know?
Sacre berceau!
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Love that front brake hanger.
Wonder if joint of laterals to upper head lug had to be done this way because Herr Oscar did not offer an upper head lug for mixte designs. Does anyone know?
Sacre berceau!
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02-24-20, 11:06 PM
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That’ll buff out
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02-25-20, 04:25 AM
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if you can get the crankset off, it might clean up to make nice wall art.
Too much work (for me) for a mixte with at least one compromised tube.
But the story you write about trying to make rideable could be worth reading.
So, as a lesson for the rest of us - Go For It.
edit: what about the wooden wheels? assume they are warped.
A wise showman once told me - 'It only takes one show stopper to stop the show!'
Too much work (for me) for a mixte with at least one compromised tube.
But the story you write about trying to make rideable could be worth reading.
So, as a lesson for the rest of us - Go For It.
edit: what about the wooden wheels? assume they are warped.
A wise showman once told me - 'It only takes one show stopper to stop the show!'
I already have to bikes in my living room as art/projects. it would get a little crowded with one more
The wheels aren't wood.... its rust and lots off it.
02-25-20, 04:30 AM
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Nice longboard? Thanks!!
The downtube looks sketchy. Maybe repair from an accident? It does look like it. Maybe I'll hang on to it for a little longer. I'm very curious what's under that beautiful repair work.
I'm of the mind, "always save it!" where reasonable. I have no doubt soaking it in Oxalic Acid bath would probably resolve the rust issues, but not knowing what was up with the downtube would always bother me and leave me a bit concerned about someone riding it.
Fortunately I don't think everyone is lawsuit-happy over there as they are over here in the US, but ...
I have no doubt based on other field bikes you posted, you'd definitely do a fine job bringing it back to life in a tasteful way.
The downtube looks sketchy. Maybe repair from an accident? It does look like it. Maybe I'll hang on to it for a little longer. I'm very curious what's under that beautiful repair work.
I'm of the mind, "always save it!" where reasonable. I have no doubt soaking it in Oxalic Acid bath would probably resolve the rust issues, but not knowing what was up with the downtube would always bother me and leave me a bit concerned about someone riding it.
Fortunately I don't think everyone is lawsuit-happy over there as they are over here in the US, but ...
I have no doubt based on other field bikes you posted, you'd definitely do a fine job bringing it back to life in a tasteful way.
02-25-20, 04:32 AM
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you can see that they grinded the lug and soldered everything together. It a little messy in person.
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02-25-20, 04:40 AM
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Like I said before. I'm keeping the frame for now because I'm very curious about what's underneath the repair work. But I don't think it will ever see the road again. If you look at the front fork it doesn't look that strait anymore.
and the top tubes doesn't look that great as well. Just noticed that.
and the top tubes doesn't look that great as well. Just noticed that.
02-25-20, 10:37 AM
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the fork can be corrected. The frame is toast but can be repaired. There is such a big dose of French Style to this-
Does appear that someone tried to fix the downtube with body lead.
Does appear that someone tried to fix the downtube with body lead.
02-25-20, 05:04 PM
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For any readers who may not know Colomb is dove in French.
There is a famous bar/restaurant on the Cote d'Azur called the Colomb d'Or.
The d'or part comes in at the crepuscule. When the doves take off or land at that time they appear golden in the light of the low on the horizon sun.
Location was featured in a motion picture.
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For any readers who may not know Colomb is dove in French.
There is a famous bar/restaurant on the Cote d'Azur called the Colomb d'Or.
The d'or part comes in at the crepuscule. When the doves take off or land at that time they appear golden in the light of the low on the horizon sun.
Location was featured in a motion picture.
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02-25-20, 05:26 PM
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Don’t know what the eventual outcome would be but, I would clean it up at least!
02-26-20, 05:25 AM
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For any readers who may not know Colomb is dove in French.
There is a famous bar/restaurant on the Cote d'Azur called the Colomb d'Or.
The d'or part comes in at the crepuscule. When the doves take off or land at that time they appear golden in the light of the low on the horizon sun.
Location was featured in a motion picture.
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For any readers who may not know Colomb is dove in French.
There is a famous bar/restaurant on the Cote d'Azur called the Colomb d'Or.
The d'or part comes in at the crepuscule. When the doves take off or land at that time they appear golden in the light of the low on the horizon sun.
Location was featured in a motion picture.
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02-26-20, 05:29 AM
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I might use this frame to practice my preservation skills on. Got a couple off frames I want to save the patina off. some of the decals on those bikes are so faded that I'm scared off totally losing them if I polish and clean to hard.
02-26-20, 05:57 AM
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While it is technically correct that the fork can be bent back, I presume that is related to the downtube repair.
Can you tell the repair material? Lead? Brass?
It is a curious bike, but appears to be pretty mediocre quality. I think wall art is a good use.
02-26-20, 09:38 AM
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this was my pile off [sic] garbage and scrap metal. And underneath this pile was this frame...
Put it back under there and wait. With enough time and pressure, it's bound to come out one day as a real gem.
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02-26-20, 03:35 PM
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Pedals,
they appear to have one-piece alloy barrels, is that correct?
slightly unusual to encounter pedals with rubber treads and one piece alloy barrels
i realise thar be others, but not very common in any event
can you read a maker's name?
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Pedals,
they appear to have one-piece alloy barrels, is that correct?
slightly unusual to encounter pedals with rubber treads and one piece alloy barrels
i realise thar be others, but not very common in any event
can you read a maker's name?
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02-27-20, 12:58 PM
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Bonjour Madame Stef,
Aha!
Monsieur Colomb had a first name -
remant of head transfer on same machine -
experts report that Colomb badge used by Cycles Jean Robic for the manufacture of machines up until 1955 when Robic merged with, or was purchased by, Cycles Rochet. one poster writes that it went to Terrot.
this example becane, a lugless randonneur -
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Bonjour Madame Stef,
Aha!
Monsieur Colomb had a first name -
remant of head transfer on same machine -
experts report that Colomb badge used by Cycles Jean Robic for the manufacture of machines up until 1955 when Robic merged with, or was purchased by, Cycles Rochet. one poster writes that it went to Terrot.
this example becane, a lugless randonneur -
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At one time there was a Cycles Colomb entity in operation in the town of Bagnolet. Have not as yet discovered years active...
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Machines wearing Colomb badge continued to be produced well into the 1970's. This fellow appears to date from about 1978 -
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Thus far have located four or five 1970's era examples. Producer at this time seems to have been Etablissements Beteber of Oloron-Ste-Marie, maker of the Regina Sport and Lapebie brand cycles.
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At one time there was a Cycles Colomb entity in operation in the town of Bagnolet. Have not as yet discovered years active...
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Machines wearing Colomb badge continued to be produced well into the 1970's. This fellow appears to date from about 1978 -
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Thus far have located four or five 1970's era examples. Producer at this time seems to have been Etablissements Beteber of Oloron-Ste-Marie, maker of the Regina Sport and Lapebie brand cycles.
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03-07-20, 08:23 AM
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@juvela- nice referencing. I like the lime green Velo de course - almost all French- about my size even and of pleasing appearing geometry.
the lug less bike is also interesting.
the quantity of French brands that were “badge engineered” does seem to be significant by the 70’s.
the lug less bike is also interesting.
the quantity of French brands that were “badge engineered” does seem to be significant by the 70’s.