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Old 01-27-21, 12:04 PM
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That’s about as I suspected, different strokes for different folks. I’ve just always wondered why the wealth of information available on this site doesn’t draw more people. I would guess only 1 or 2% of the entire U.S. bike riding population uses this forum.
I met a fellow Michigander on here years back who talked me into a group ride, then joining the club he belonged too.
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I would love a place on the water some day. But not Galveston Bay or that area. Not sure where it would be. I probably have 7 to 10 years to think about it.
Buy one street inland now and you'll be all set.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
Mountains have winter, especially Asheville.
yep, and I can leave winter there on the mountain.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
My dad was a lather all his life in the STL area. I still remember him coming home with his fingers split from the dry and cold, and how tough it was working through the winter. Watching him work his ass off kept me in school.

I'm too old and have been working for myself too long to simply pull up, move, and look for a job. Plus, my clients are pretty much all located in DFW, so my business is not really portable. I can see potentially moving after I hang up the working gig, but that would depend on where our kids are. My wife is going to want to stay close to where ever the future grand babies are likely to be. Quite frankly, so do I.
The grand kid thing is the sticky wicket in my plan. I have 3. Maybe I can figure out a way to snowbird for winters.
The plan is 5 years 6 if I have to, and the co. Let's me.
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Some small-dick guys are very nice people!
I don't think I want to know how you know that.
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Old 01-27-21, 12:15 PM
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Same. Plus my mom used to threaten us with having to be “digging ditches” if the grades didn’t improve.
I literally dug ditches for the first 6 years I was at this co. Well holes on top of gas mains to make repairs, same thing. It pays good. But I wish I would have listened to your mom. Lol.
My dad was Die maker. When there was work, it was 7 days a week. I didn't see a lot of him as a yute.
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Originally Posted by big john View Post
Some of the people who have said they enjoy it stop posting or even lurking.
That is to be expected. When you think about the number of members who use the forum anonymity to be rude, insulting or downright dicks it's not surprising a fair percentage of people get turned off and leave.
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Some small-dick guys are very nice people!
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I would really like to move there but I don't know how my daughter would take it.
Don't you live in MI? What is there to cling to?
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As screwed up as LA is, I would stay here on the outskirts if it wasn't so expensive. I want to move somewhere cheaper but Mrs John seems stuck. If my landlord or his heirs kick us out, I don't know where we would go. 1 bedroom apartments in decent neighborhoods are $2300.

Still, there is year-round riding and a huge variety of terrain. A lot of groups/clubs to ride with and most of my friends are here. I try to avoid going over the hill toward LA proper and all of the beach communities are overcrowded and traffic is a mess everywhere.
Since covid a lot of traffic has freed up so people drive extremely fast and recklessly all over. It's as if they are trying to make up for all the years of stop and go. It's a different kind of awful.
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I've always heard that it's a bad idea to move to follow the grandkids. Once you do, your kid's job changes and takes them someplace else, and you either have to move or are stuck in a place with no reason to be there.

Our daughter will probably always be in Texas, and is planning a move from Dallas back to Austin this year. FSIL's family is well entrenched in Fort Worth. They will likely be the first of our two to provide some offspring. Our son is the wildcard. I can see him moving to a different state or even to Europe.
Well I guess I'll have to have a talk with my daughter, she keeps moving north bruuuhh, ....thats the wrong direction!
not going there. My sil's people are in the u.p. That's nuts. No economy and colder longer winters.
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I would love a place on the water some day. But not Galveston Bay or that area. Not sure where it would be. I probably have 7 to 10 years to think about it.
Our other “house” is walking distance from the ocean, it’s nice because it never really gets too cold in the winter (almost never below 15) or too hot in the summer (almost never above 90). The trade off is that when Nor’easters hit, we get significant snowfall and wind. It’s pretty awesome to go down to the causeway after a storm and see the 7 foot diameter boulders in the middle of the road from the storm surge.
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Don't you live in MI? What is there to cling to?
Family, friends, that's about it. 5 months of the year I hate it.
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Originally Posted by phrantic09 View Post
Our other “house” is walking distance from the ocean, it’s nice because it never really gets too cold in the winter (almost never below 15) or too hot in the summer (almost never above 90). The trade off is that when Nor’easters hit, we get significant snowfall and wind. It’s pretty awesome to go down to the causeway after a storm and see the 7 foot diameter boulders in the middle of the road from the storm surge.
Once my daughters are in college , we plan to move south. Probably SC or inland VA. Someplace warm enough that snowfall hardly ever happens.
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I don’t think it’s apples to oranges. The 5-6 AM drivers here where I ride are typically farmers, and they’re the nicest group of drivers around here. Always a wave and plenty of space.
I can't speak as to the 6 a.m. farm crew. Most of the year it's dark at 6 a.m. so I wouldn't ride then. No one would be looking out for cyclists at that hour. Some drivers would be half asleep.

The obvious downside of 5 p.m. is there's a lot more drivers, so better odds of encountering a bad one. And people may be more frustrated at the traffic.
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All the cool kids say Asheville is the place to live.
It's no Knoxville, but it's scenic. All the nearby climbing one could want.
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That is to be expected. When you think about the number of members who use the forum anonymity to be rude, insulting or downright dicks it's not surprising a fair percentage of people get turned off and leave.
That's what happened with the lady I mentioned. She became very popular here from her posts and her ride organizing. I don't know why certain men felt like they should harass her like they did, calling her fat and making all manner of sexual comments, but it drove her away. I called out one of them but he never responded to me.

It's a shame because she is a good person and was hurt and even a little frightened by those idiots. Mostly the one guy but one of his friends would add to the crap sometimes.
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As screwed up as LA is, I would stay here on th... Shortened to save the internets..... It's a different kind of awful.
I've been to Ca. A few times when I traveled for work. And on vacations there. I love Ca. I spent a month riding my bike all over.. Hell I even enjoyed Bakersfield! I met and rode with a few forum members. Umd, Joel. I slept on Joel's couch for a week when I was there. I rode all over near Santa barbara/Carpinteria. Did the Hollywood sign climb. The mountains. It is truly awesome. Maybe some day again..
But, I could never afford to live there. Maybe if I hit the lottery...a big one. Then I would only have to work part time...
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I've been to Ca. A few times when I traveled for work. And on vacations there. I love Ca. I spent a month riding my bike all over.. Hell I even enjoyed Bakersfield! I met and rode with a few forum members. Umd, Joel. I slept on Joel's couch for a week when I was there. I rode all over near Santa barbara/Carpinteria. Did the Hollywood sign climb. The mountains. It is truly awesome. Maybe some day again..
But, I could never afford to live there. Maybe if I hit the lottery...a big one. Then I would only have to work part time...
I used to see umd when we had forum rides. Way too fast on the climbs for me. He has 2 kids now and no longer races but he still does fast club rides.
Don't think I know Joel, is that his username?
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California has some insane money. We took a trip to Carmel one year and stayed at a place in Carmel Valley. At dinner one night, we met a couple who summered in Carmel Valley to get away from the fog that often surrounds their other house on 17 Mile Drive in Pebble Beach. Who has two houses less than 20 miles apart???
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Oh no, another Basso in my size and price range.

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I used to see umd when we had forum rides. Way too fast on the climbs for me. He has 2 kids now and no longer races but he still does fast club rides.
Don't think I know Joel, is that his username?
yes, he's in the Fresno area. (I think, near folsom? It's been 12 years)
I used to follow umd on strava but did a purge last year. Hes a good guy. He gave me some nice ride routes to follow. and took me out on one. Nice of him to wait for this fat flatlander, lol.
I stayed with Joel the first week of a month long work tour of CA. The job was only 2 hours a day ish then time to ride. I did that for an entire month and then blew 10 days of vacation on the coast. Best month of the 6 years I was with that co.
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Oh no, another Basso in my size and price range.

How will you ever live with yourself .........





































If you don't?
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California has some insane money. We took a trip to Carmel one year and stayed at a place in Carmel Valley. At dinner one night, we met a couple who summered in Carmel Valley to get away from the fog that often surrounds their other house on 17 Mile Drive in Pebble Beach. Who has two houses less than 20 miles apart???
Well. If you have to askk..... your probably sane..
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Oh no, another Basso in my size and price range.


Doooooo. Eeeeeeeeertttt!
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