WTB Venture vs. Byway
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@pbass how did they feel on the road vs gravel? did you change PSI or just roll at one PSI?
I think i like these or the Terrene Elwoods
i am trying to decide if I buy some new tires for my Journeyman for my Unpaved Pennsylvania ride. I am worried about the Byways sliding out
I think i like these or the Terrene Elwoods
i am trying to decide if I buy some new tires for my Journeyman for my Unpaved Pennsylvania ride. I am worried about the Byways sliding out
I'm about 70/30 dirt/road. They feel fine on the road--I don't really notice any penalty with the added tread. Still playing with the PSI. I'm running in the mid-high 20's right now.
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Cool. I really appreciate the perspective. Looks like eventually I'll be getting some 650b wheels. I've looked into buying a set online but it gets a little daunting with everything involved. Did you guys go into a shop and have them help or is this something I can easily choose out online and buy all the parts to?
They will be less expensive than a lot of the off the shelf wheels, and you can have something "built in the USA" rather than somewhere in Asia. ;-)
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Seems like you made a choice, but thought I would chime in anyway. I have been running a Venture in the rear and Sendero in the front for my riding in SoCal, really like the setup. The Venture definitely has much more supportive and pronounced side knobs than the Byway.
Personally, running a less aggressive tire in the rear is more fun for me. I think a Venture in front and a Byway in back for lower rolling resistance and a little more excitement would be a ton of fun as well.
Personally, running a less aggressive tire in the rear is more fun for me. I think a Venture in front and a Byway in back for lower rolling resistance and a little more excitement would be a ton of fun as well.
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Seems like you made a choice, but thought I would chime in anyway. I have been running a Venture in the rear and Sendero in the front for my riding in SoCal, really like the setup. The Venture definitely has much more supportive and pronounced side knobs than the Byway.
Personally, running a less aggressive tire is more fun for me. I think a Venture in front and a Byway in back for lower rolling resistance and a little more excitement would be a ton of fun as well.
Personally, running a less aggressive tire is more fun for me. I think a Venture in front and a Byway in back for lower rolling resistance and a little more excitement would be a ton of fun as well.
Where is that, BTW?
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PBass...... watch yourself. Pic just above the JPL parking lot last week. These guys are out even though the weather is mild.. they are out trying to warm up. This one had 10-11 rattles on it.
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Yep, saw one this week--Cherry Canyon. Also a really beautiful juvenile bobcat down by JPL.
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Damn, that rig looks hot. How does that feel on the road? I've run different sizes front to rear on my mountain bike (bigger in front) but never different degrees of tread. I bet it locks on to our rocky gnar here real well. Your idea of the Venture in front/ByWay in back is something I could easily try now, but for me, I was sliding out at the top of pitchy loose climbs, feeling like it was the rear coming loose, so I dunno. Maybe it;s because my technique sucks
Where is that, BTW?
Where is that, BTW?
Since most of the rolling resistance is in the rear I try to save energy there and keep the cornering confidence for the front. Technique helps a lot for the steep stuff, but at the end of the day out of the saddle climbing is def worse without a knobby in the rear. For grinding up fire roads there's no big loss though. If you're riding a fair amount of road, the Sendero might be a little much, and the Venture front and a Byway on back would probably be the way to go (for wear properties as much as road noise and rolling resistance).
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OK, I haven't ridden on the dirt yet, but they sure do look cool on this bike Up and down my street feels good (at "pavement PSI"). They do seem a tad narrower than the ByWays just by eye--I never measured my ByWays. But I'm cool with sacrificing some width for some tread
. Tomorrow I will hit the fire roads and see how these babies grip....
. Tomorrow I will hit the fire roads and see how these babies grip....
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Damn, that rig looks hot. How does that feel on the road? I've run different sizes front to rear on my mountain bike (bigger in front) but never different degrees of tread. I bet it locks on to our rocky gnar here real well. Your idea of the Venture in front/ByWay in back is something I could easily try now, but for me, I was sliding out at the top of pitchy loose climbs, feeling like it was the rear coming loose, so I dunno. Maybe it;s because my technique sucks
Where is that, BTW?
Where is that, BTW?
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Just did a 80KM ride, 99% on pavement with new Venture tires. Before i had the Byways. When you want to accelerate You can feel the small knobs digging into pavement, but once you get up to speed i found them OK, not to much drag. Not sure about this, but first impression is that the Byway was more compliant, plush than Venture. Just had couple of rides also on dry gravel, dirt and they were fine. On the other hand i never had problems going on same terrain with the Byway.
Also have a 700cc wheelset with Vitoria Strada Bianca 36x700 TLR for road and light gravel, so i wanted to have a tire more for offroad for my 650b whellset.
Also have a 700cc wheelset with Vitoria Strada Bianca 36x700 TLR for road and light gravel, so i wanted to have a tire more for offroad for my 650b whellset.
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@pbass how did they feel on the road vs gravel? did you change PSI or just roll at one PSI?
I think i like these or the Terrene Elwoods
i am trying to decide if I buy some new tires for my Journeyman for my Unpaved Pennsylvania ride. I am worried about the Byways sliding out
I think i like these or the Terrene Elwoods
i am trying to decide if I buy some new tires for my Journeyman for my Unpaved Pennsylvania ride. I am worried about the Byways sliding out
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Any love for the Sendero?
Any love for the Senderos? I rebuilt my singlespeed last evening, and threw on a pair.
The Venture is probably more right for how I normally ride the bike, but - silly me - I had neglected to order a set. So the Senderos are it until my Ventures arrive.
Am heading out today and might try our local singletrack. Might as well, right? Because knobs.
The Venture is probably more right for how I normally ride the bike, but - silly me - I had neglected to order a set. So the Senderos are it until my Ventures arrive.
Am heading out today and might try our local singletrack. Might as well, right? Because knobs.
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Mine are installed like that too, with the spider 'arms' pointing toward the direction of braking force, which maybe makes sense.
edit: yeah, looks like youre right.
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The Senderos were shockingly good on Munising's singletrack. I might leave them on the bike for a while. Got in a great ride today. Singlespeed is a nice change of pace. Only a couple steep bits on our local trail that I don't yet have the legs for. All good though. Had a great time out on the bike. Might run 5 psi lower pressures next time.
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Some of Sendoros' 47 mm width is taken up by the knobs, leaving less room for air volume. I do notice the less balloon-like feel to the Senderos as compared to the Horizons. That said, my bike frame won't allow for anything wider than 47 mm so it's a good thing that WTB held the outer width to that number.
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Never seen so many snakes in one year. Must be heavy rains displaced them, or becuase they are digging out Devil's gate damn.
Watch you step please!
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Another one down at the JPL parking. This must be the daddy..... 14 rattles. These things freak me out because I can't hear very well.
Never seen so many snakes in one year. Must be heavy rains displaced them, or becuase they are digging out Devil's gate damn.
Watch you step please!
Never seen so many snakes in one year. Must be heavy rains displaced them, or becuase they are digging out Devil's gate damn.
Watch you step please!
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If you want good rolling tires with grip that play well with most everything, get wtb Riddler's or Donnelly mso xplor. If you need something that can handle mud and sand, specialized fasttraks are the ticket and don't sacrifice much on other terrain, but do require 2in clearance.
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