Inline cable adjusters - yes or no?
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Inline cable adjusters - yes or no?
I'm getting ready to upgrade my Ridley with a new Campy Record groupset and I'm wondering what the general consensus is on inline cable adjusters. I thought I would use them when I first built the bike, but in practice I've rarely touched them.
Inline cable adjusters on a Ridley Noah ISP.
Inline cable adjusters on a Ridley Noah ISP.
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well you are going to need something somewhere, so thats a given.
What I can say from personal experience is to NOT go with cheapies, but known models that don't go out of adjustment. I made this mistake on a bike setup and it took me a while to figure out that it was them, and not other stuff going on, so in other words, I wasted time and had sometimes dodgey shifting going on during a trip (Im a touring guy).
With proper placement, I see no downside to using them, if you are asking a very general question.
What I can say from personal experience is to NOT go with cheapies, but known models that don't go out of adjustment. I made this mistake on a bike setup and it took me a while to figure out that it was them, and not other stuff going on, so in other words, I wasted time and had sometimes dodgey shifting going on during a trip (Im a touring guy).
With proper placement, I see no downside to using them, if you are asking a very general question.
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I'll assume its a mechanical groupset with caliper brakes. For shifting, if the brifters or derailleurs don't have built-in cable adjusters, by all means install in-line ones. For mechanical brakes, particularly caliper brakes, they aren't as critical.
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I wouldn't use one on the RD if there's an adjuster on the RD itself. I would use one on the FD as they allow to precisely fine tune the derailleur whenever you need.
Having to stop to detach the cable, find the correct position and clamp it again because something has moved a little is a PITA. Cables stretch, and an in-line adjuster allows you to tweak the derailleur even while you're pedaling if necessary.
Having to stop to detach the cable, find the correct position and clamp it again because something has moved a little is a PITA. Cables stretch, and an in-line adjuster allows you to tweak the derailleur even while you're pedaling if necessary.
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I rarely touch my inline shift cable adjusters, but they sure are handy when first setting up mechanical index shifting and occasionally as the shifter cables "stretch". Sure beats trying to get the cable set perfect using just the pinch bolt at the derailleur. Of course, going to electronic shifting eliminates the need for shift cable adjusters completely.
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Like the proverbial chicken soup, it couldn't hurt. They DO make it easy to dial in initial settings..
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very handy to have, because when you need them, you need them..... just fine tuned my front derailler that had gone out of perfect tune.....
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When your shifter cable starts to move in the hold down during the ride of all rides, you'll be glad you had one, even if it is only a temporary solution for whatever the reason your chain doesn't quite get on the cog or chainwheel.
If all goes well, it is one of those things you won't need to use.
If all goes well, it is one of those things you won't need to use.
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the only reason I used them (well, really only one because the fd is friction, so no need) is because the xt rd doesnt have one on it.
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The Campy groupo will come with an in-line adjuster for the FD. Use it, if your frame has no adjusters. The rear derailleur has it's own adjuster, so only one is needed. These inline adjusters can't be changed while riding, like frame mounted adjusters - it takes two hands. The FD adjuster is important, since the FDs adjust differently than older models and trying to get the FD set properly without one is a real pain.
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have to say, I cant remember having to adjust a fd really after setup. Maybe a few times but that was usually a sign that cable was fraying inside brifter and I couldnt see it.
and yes, one handed adjustment is easy, but again, very rare the need.
and yes, one handed adjustment is easy, but again, very rare the need.
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You have to have it on the FD or your not going to be able to dial it in properly. Look up Campagnolo’s YouTube installation videos. Inline adjusters are part of the FDs adjustment.
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Stuck with a limited number of components that I could use on a folder, none of which had a built-in adjuster, I had to turn to in-line adjusters and tried different ones, including Jagwire, Shimano and Ritchey. I ended my search at TSG flexible guides with adjusters, such as here. They are marketed for brakes, but I use them on shift cables fine.
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I've had cables fray, slip, and even a FD that slowly slipped a bit on the seatpost once (it seems it was slightly loose from the factory). When that happens, unless it's catastrophic failure or you have a hundred km remaining to get home, it's easier to twist the adjuster a little bit, finish the ride, and solve the problem later.
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Ditto getting a good quality adjuster. My cheap bike came with plastic pieces of crap from Jagwire and they're coming off first time I work on shifter cables. The adjuster on the RD is good enough for me--I won't lose a race if I stop for 60 seconds for a quick adjustment. I've never touched a front adjuster while riding.
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I've had cables fray, slip, and even a FD that slowly slipped a bit on the seatpost once (it seems it was slightly loose from the factory). When that happens, unless it's catastrophic failure or you have a hundred km remaining to get home, it's easier to twist the adjuster a little bit, finish the ride, and solve the problem later.
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Stuck with a limited number of components that I could use on a folder, none of which had a built-in adjuster, I had to turn to in-line adjusters and tried different ones, including Jagwire, Shimano and Ritchey. I ended my search at TSG flexible guides with adjusters, such as here. They are marketed for brakes, but I use them on shift cables fine.
I don't recall what brand the brake one was, and I'd have to look at the functioning one for brand--- this is a 9 spd bike, so possibly easier or less finicky than 10,11 speeds?
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the frustrating experience I had was with one that was made for brakes, and issues fixed when I put in a proper deailleur one.
I don't recall what brand the brake one was, and I'd have to look at the functioning one for brand--- this is a 9 spd bike, so possibly easier or less finicky than 10,11 speeds?
I don't recall what brand the brake one was, and I'd have to look at the functioning one for brand--- this is a 9 spd bike, so possibly easier or less finicky than 10,11 speeds?
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I'd install 2 if the RD didn't have an adjuster. AFAIK, road derailleurs all have an adjuster, so in this case it's not necessary in my opinion. Of course, if I wanted to use an MTB derailleur without adjuster with road brifters that also lack it, then I'd install one for the RD as well.
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Those TSG adjusters sit on nominally 3sp shift cables, but on a folder everything can be tricky. One of the 3 speeds is squeezed into 2 speed space with 10- and 11-speed hardware and is very finicky to set up. Yet these TSG adjusters work better than the brand names I mentioned all of which were specifically meant for the shift cables.
If they work well, great.
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At least partly this is true about these. I suspect that their springiness helps too in keeping things tight. Again a a folder brings its own cable woes, in that the cables are long, so that they do not block the folding, and that these cables get mistreated during folding. However, in spite of all that, these appropriated adjusters seem to work .
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Cable adjusters, a yes here. Especially nice to have after a cable redo. Yes, there is an adjustment barrel on most rear derailleurs, but you got to stop to adjust, I would rather have it available while pedaling, so much easier to dial in perfect alignment as long as you are indexed properly, you can hear it and also feel the smooth at your clips when it is right...all my bikes have them installed...
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The OP asked about Campy. Their adjusters require the lower portion to be held stationary and the upper portion turned. If you can do that with one hand while riding, then it's a one handed job. If you just grab the upper or lower portion of a Campy adjuster, the whole thing spins and no change occurs to the cable tension.
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None of this is a matter of any "consensus", these are just hard technical facts.
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