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3 Mixtes
Last weekend I made some changes to my wife's mixte because that seemed to be a good place to start working on my queue. We bought this Miyata Sport 10 at a yard sale for $5 almost 20 years ago. I think it is a 1985 model and it is just about the bottom of the line. It came with mostly steel bits but it does have cro-mo tubing, so it's worth upgrading. I found a nice SR 26.6mm seatpost at the coop that is long enough so even I can ride the bike. Spent $35 on a Schwinn WorldSport to get the alloy wheels. I was going to donate the rest of the bike to the coop, but it shifted so nicely that the levers, RD freewheel and chain all ended up staying
Replaced the SunTour7 with this SIS RD. Gained a cog, so now it is a Sport 12
Bottom bracket and cranks from a donor Schwinn, alloy rings and guard from an old Maxy
Indexed shifting should encourage... shifting
I was overhauling this bike when I discovered BF ;-)
Replaced the SunTour7 with this SIS RD. Gained a cog, so now it is a Sport 12
Bottom bracket and cranks from a donor Schwinn, alloy rings and guard from an old Maxy
Indexed shifting should encourage... shifting
I was overhauling this bike when I discovered BF ;-)
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Take my mixte... please!
When I bought the donor Schwinn, the seller showed me this Follis mixte that he couldn't sell on CL for $20. He begged me to take it too. Sharp negotiator that I am, I gave him $20.
I like Mafac brakes and thought the brake levers might be worth something, but the coop was the most likely destination.
Simplex RD/FD
Interesting brake cable sheave; don't know why they didn't mount them to a bridge on the laterals
Seeing the metallic blue paint shine through the vinyl decal is making me reconsider this one
Given the lock-down, I just may spend some time on this one after all.
I like Mafac brakes and thought the brake levers might be worth something, but the coop was the most likely destination.
Simplex RD/FD
Interesting brake cable sheave; don't know why they didn't mount them to a bridge on the laterals
Seeing the metallic blue paint shine through the vinyl decal is making me reconsider this one
Given the lock-down, I just may spend some time on this one after all.
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Ficelle mixte
This mixte spent all of last year on CL without selling. It was about 75 minutes drive from me and went from $100 to 90 to 75 and finally $50 by December. Maybe the lack of a seat in the photo was a fatal flaw. Over the course of the summer I convinced myself that I had to give it a home, mostly based on the box lining and the luminous paint. I picked up this vinyl Brooks for $16; it's not French but it will do for now.
This is my first bike with a Huret drivetrain, so I'm looking forward to getting that cleaned up.
Quick release hubs are above-average for this vintage mixte
cut-out lugs!
Huret!
This is my first bike with a Huret drivetrain, so I'm looking forward to getting that cleaned up.
Quick release hubs are above-average for this vintage mixte
cut-out lugs!
Huret!
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WOW! 3 proper twin tube mixte's!
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I love white plastic Mafac levers...
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This mixte spent all of last year on CL without selling. It was about 75 minutes drive from me and went from $100 to 90 to 75 and finally $50 by December. Maybe the lack of a seat in the photo was a fatal flaw. Over the course of the summer I convinced myself that I had to give it a home, mostly based on the box lining and the luminous paint. I picked up this vinyl Brooks for $16; it's not French but it will do for now.
This is my first bike with a Huret drivetrain, so I'm looking forward to getting that cleaned up.
Quick release hubs are above-average for this vintage mixte
cut-out lugs!
Huret!
This is my first bike with a Huret drivetrain, so I'm looking forward to getting that cleaned up.
Quick release hubs are above-average for this vintage mixte
cut-out lugs!
Huret!
Thanks very much for posting.
Great to see you have given this gal an appreciative home.
As far as anyone seems to know there has only been one U.S. importer for this seldom encountered marque - The Island Cycle Supply Co. of Minneapolis MN.
Evidently they only brought in one or two batches ~1973 as all examples encountered look to date from that time.
Lug pattern is NERVEX Nr. 45/159, shell Gargatte.
The UNIVERSEL chainseet from A. Duprat wears chainwheels from Cyclo (France).
Pedals are the not oft seen Lyotard Ref. 25 R.
Wheel rims appear to be SAMIR Saminox.
Two forum discussion threads on these reside here -
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/fi...o-pics.134252/
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/ficelle.134033/
An example was reviewed in the December 1972 issue of BICYCLING! magazine.
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Two forum discussion threads on these reside here -
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/fi...o-pics.134252/
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/ficelle.134033/
An example was reviewed in the December 1972 issue of BICYCLING! magazine.
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Two forum discussion threads on these reside here -
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/fi...o-pics.134252/
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/ficelle.134033/
An example was reviewed in the December 1972 issue of BICYCLING! magazine.
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Both the Follis and the Ficelle have this stem:
I'll check the rims but I think they were labeled AVA.....
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My wife's favorite bike is her Miyata 310 Mixte. I just added 2 sets of braze-ons for water bottle bosses the other day. I was able to mask and spray the areas with a gloss black.
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wrt the Ficelle -
BF stem and bar stock is Belleri - BELRI.
Found it interesting that while it has MAFAC brakes CLB front & rear hangers were fitted.
Bottom bracket assembly is VEROT. (Etablissements Verot-Perrin is the firm which made Stronglight products)
At one point checked the French forum tontonvelo and the Belgian forum veloretrocourse for the Ficelle name. There were no mentions at either which made me suspect name created for Island Cycle Supply.
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wrt the Ficelle -
BF stem and bar stock is Belleri - BELRI.
Found it interesting that while it has MAFAC brakes CLB front & rear hangers were fitted.
Bottom bracket assembly is VEROT. (Etablissements Verot-Perrin is the firm which made Stronglight products)
At one point checked the French forum tontonvelo and the Belgian forum veloretrocourse for the Ficelle name. There were no mentions at either which made me suspect name created for Island Cycle Supply.
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Tore down and cleaned up the Ficelle. The rims are marked <>DEA<> Super-chrome. Both wheels had these loosely woven rim tapes with leather reinforcements at the valve stem. The hubs are not matched but appear to have been laced with the same spokes. All of the bearings and the chain showed minimal wear. I replaced the 24 tooth Normandy freewheel with a 26 tooth Cyclo 72 for the lower gearing. The seatpost was really short so I replaced it with an alloy post from the parts bin.
No markings of any sort on the hubs....
Found that the Mafac brake levers have a steel core inside the molded plastic.
Ready to ride...
No markings of any sort on the hubs....
Found that the Mafac brake levers have a steel core inside the molded plastic.
Ready to ride...
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That’s a sweet bike. It’s very hard to find those brake levers intact; the plastic is usually broken off to the point where the metal core starts.
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Schreck83 , this is magnificent! tell me, what voodoo do you do to get those fuzzy old galvanized spokes to come back like that?? or did you completely re-lace these?
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Three nice Mixtes. Your point about why don't they just put the rear brake on the twin laterals is a good one given that to place the calipers on the seat tube requires some twisty, curvy cable routing and that all adds up to more friction whereas if the brake was on the laterals, it would be much more direct. Peugeot and Motobecane did it this way. My wife's Panasonic also has the brake on the laterals. On your wife's Miyata, the side pull caliper is on the seat stays, however, it is a large radius bend because the brake cable pieces can be removed from the caliper arms and remounted so that the cable enters from the bottom rather than the more convention top.
I think that the only down side to mounting centerpull brakes on the twin laterals is that you need an extra long straddle cable. Unless you have Mafac calipers this could be hard to do. A long straddle cable will affect the braking force, but since it is on the rear, you don't want too much force anyway.
Anyway, you have 3 nice Mixtes. I like them all, but I like most mixtes. I wish more people would appreciate them.
I think that the only down side to mounting centerpull brakes on the twin laterals is that you need an extra long straddle cable. Unless you have Mafac calipers this could be hard to do. A long straddle cable will affect the braking force, but since it is on the rear, you don't want too much force anyway.
Anyway, you have 3 nice Mixtes. I like them all, but I like most mixtes. I wish more people would appreciate them.
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Schreck83 , this is magnificent! tell me, what voodoo do you do to get those fuzzy old galvanized spokes to come back like that?? or did you completely re-lace these?
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The downside to the side pull brake cable entering from the bottom caliper is that water can enter the cable housing and corrode the cable inside that large radius bend, which is what had happened to this mixte.
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i also find that rusted cable housing usually turns up on those reverse-mounted calipers up on the seat stays. funny, but I notice that later mixtes (into the 80s) tend to favor seat stay brakes, even those from the same manufacturers who put the brakes on the laterals a decade earlier.
I had always assumed it was a legal department thing, once lawyers worked out that it was too easy for a casual rider to remount their rear wheel (in typical horizontal dropouts) in such a way that you could completely misalign rim & brake pads and end up with ... a product liability lawsuit!
but is there a real technical reason for the shift i dont know about?
I had always assumed it was a legal department thing, once lawyers worked out that it was too easy for a casual rider to remount their rear wheel (in typical horizontal dropouts) in such a way that you could completely misalign rim & brake pads and end up with ... a product liability lawsuit!
but is there a real technical reason for the shift i dont know about?
Three nice Mixtes. Your point about why don't they just put the rear brake on the twin laterals is a good one given that to place the calipers on the seat tube requires some twisty, curvy cable routing and that all adds up to more friction whereas if the brake was on the laterals, it would be much more direct. Peugeot and Motobecane did it this way. My wife's Panasonic also has the brake on the laterals. On your wife's Miyata, the side pull caliper is on the seat stays, however, it is a large radius bend because the brake cable pieces can be removed from the caliper arms and remounted so that the cable enters from the bottom rather than the more convention top.
I think that the only down side to mounting centerpull brakes on the twin laterals is that you need an extra long straddle cable. Unless you have Mafac calipers this could be hard to do. A long straddle cable will affect the braking force, but since it is on the rear, you don't want too much force anyway.
Anyway, you have 3 nice Mixtes. I like them all, but I like most mixtes. I wish more people would appreciate them.
I think that the only down side to mounting centerpull brakes on the twin laterals is that you need an extra long straddle cable. Unless you have Mafac calipers this could be hard to do. A long straddle cable will affect the braking force, but since it is on the rear, you don't want too much force anyway.
Anyway, you have 3 nice Mixtes. I like them all, but I like most mixtes. I wish more people would appreciate them.