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Old 09-25-19, 10:05 AM
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Keep your current bike and ride it for a season. Find out what you like and don't like about the bike. If after a season you feel the bike is holding you back, sell it and buy the bike you want based on your experience.
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Old 09-25-19, 10:37 AM
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I think those bike dudes are misinterpeting the Roubaix's reputation for being a comfortable ride preferred by older riders as meaning it's slow. Ask them how much the Roubaix slowed down Peter Sagan or Phillipe Gilbert at Paris-Roubaix?

At lower levels it's absolutely about the rider more than the bike. If you're an inexperienced rider, you need more time in the saddle, and a bike you feel comfortable riding is essential. If you're serious about becoming a faster rider, a power meter with any working bike will make more of a difference than picking one bike in the performance road bike category over another.
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Old 09-25-19, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by thedemoncowboy View Post
Local guys here, and guys on ******.

I agree with your sentiment as I'm new but I'm willing to do my best to become better.
  • Talked to a "bike dude," he said "That tarmac would smoke your Roubaix."
  • Talked to another "Bike dude," he said "The new Roubaix has much better components."
They said because of the shape of the tubes I would be impeccably slower.... IMPECCABLY SLOWER -_-
Well, **** those guys.
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Old 09-25-19, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by surak View Post
I think those bike dudes are misinterpeting the Roubaix's reputation for being a comfortable ride preferred by older riders as meaning it's slow. Ask them how much the Roubaix slowed down Peter Sagan or Phillipe Gilbert at Paris-Roubaix?

At lower levels it's absolutely about the rider more than the bike. If you're an inexperienced rider, you need more time in the saddle, and a bike you feel comfortable riding is essential. If you're serious about becoming a faster rider, a power meter with any working bike will make more of a difference than picking one bike in the performance road bike category over another.
+1 I had a 2015 Roubaix, it's a pretty good bike. It's a more upright geometry vs Tarmac. I'm also guessing it's a bit more comfortable since I never owned a Tarmac.
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Old 09-25-19, 04:24 PM
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That Tarmac will smoke your Roubaix? They're not motorcycles. You will find riders on beat up cheap bikes who can smoke YOU, regardless of which bike you are riding.
I have an expensive bike and people drop me all the time.
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Old 09-25-19, 05:45 PM
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For the most part, I have found it is the motor(rider) not the machine that makes one fast. There was a local guy that could smoke just about anyone around on any bike he straddled. More or less a local legend. Had moved away now.

Keep the bike and ride the daylights out of it. You will find out soon enough if you are fast enough for the bike.
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Old 09-25-19, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by thedemoncowboy View Post
Local guys here, and guys on ******.

I agree with your sentiment as I'm new but I'm willing to do my best to become better.
  • Talked to a "bike dude," he said "That tarmac would smoke your Roubaix."
  • Talked to another "Bike dude," he said "The new Roubaix has much better components."
They said because of the shape of the tubes I would be impeccably slower.... IMPECCABLY SLOWER -_-
The Roubaix is an endurance frame, the Tarmac is a lightweight race frame built to be as stiff and light as possible. Both are pro level frames, so anyone who says the one is "better" than the other is dumb. They are good at different things.

If you are looking for something that will be comfortable over long distances, especially on rough roads, amd still be very fast, the Roubaix is a good choice. Pro riders use this bike in the spring classics, over cobbles, etc.

If you are looking for the frame that is lighter, better at racing fast, but not necessarily the most comfortable, the tarmac is the better choice. Pro riders use this bike as an all round road bike for fast races, climbing, etc.

Seeing as you are a beginner, I would lean towards the Roubaix regardless, as it will inspire you to do longer rides in comfort. Also at your level, even if doing some races, neither bike will mean the difference between winning or losing for you, so whatever you choose, dont stress out about it.

Groupset choice will be irrelevant for your purposes, get whatever your wallet is happy with, 105 or above will be more than good enough.

Good luck!
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Old 09-25-19, 10:26 PM
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get the 2020 roubiax, it has the updated future-shock 2.0
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Old 09-25-19, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by maartendc View Post
The Roubaix is an endurance frame, the Tarmac is a lightweight race frame built to be as stiff and light as possible. Both are pro level frames, so anyone who says the one is "better" than the other is dumb. They are good at different things.

If you are looking for something that will be comfortable over long distances, especially on rough roads, amd still be very fast, the Roubaix is a good choice. Pro riders use this bike in the spring classics, over cobbles, etc.

If you are looking for the frame that is lighter, better at racing fast, but not necessarily the most comfortable, the tarmac is the better choice. Pro riders use this bike as an all round road bike for fast races, climbing, etc.

Seeing as you are a beginner, I would lean towards the Roubaix regardless, as it will inspire you to do longer rides in comfort. Also at your level, even if doing some races, neither bike will mean the difference between winning or losing for you, so whatever you choose, dont stress out about it.

Groupset choice will be irrelevant for your purposes, get whatever your wallet is happy with, 105 or above will be more than good enough.

Good luck!
Im going tarmac, but cant choose color
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Old 09-26-19, 07:19 AM
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It's been noted several times that the Roubaix is an "Endurance" bike. But let's be clear - it's an "Endurance RACE" bike. It has a slightly taller headtube and longer wheelbase to make it more comfortable when racing over cobbles. It is by no means slow.

I'd bet for most riders, the Roubaix is probably the better option than the Tarmac.
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Old 09-26-19, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by thedemoncowboy View Post
Im going tarmac, but cant choose color
Just go with what you think will impress the cycling clique more annd thus elevate your status within.
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Old 09-26-19, 08:10 AM
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I'm beginning to think the OP lives under a bridge and collects coins for a living.
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Old 09-26-19, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by topflightpro View Post
It's been noted several times that the Roubaix is an "Endurance" bike. But let's be clear - it's an "Endurance RACE" bike. It has a slightly taller headtube and longer wheelbase to make it more comfortable when racing over cobbles. It is by no means slow.

I'd bet for most riders, the Roubaix is probably the better option than the Tarmac.
We tried.
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Old 09-26-19, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
You are new to riding and bought an almost $6000 bike. It isnt going to hold you back. You are going to hold the bike back due to lack of strength/endurance/experience.

Who specifically are the naysayers you mention?
And why specifically will your bike be 'super slow'?

Would love to hear who and why- its be interesting.
This, all of this!!!!

No matter what you buy, or spend someone is always going to slight it.

Same with Guns, cars, zero turn riders, Woofers/Car Audio equipment, etc...

Its nice to have others approval and likes (in this age of social media), but at I always feel that at some point, I have to do research on whatever it is I'm looking at buying/building and choose my product on my own.

What right for Billy Bob may not be right for me.... What right for me, may not be right for Tyrell...

I read all the factory data, reviews and peoples opinions, dump them all in a virtual pot, stir them up a bit, then form my own decision.

Remember, no matter how much you spend, (on anything) there is likely to be something better. It might be the next model year, but it will happen.
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Originally Posted by thedemoncowboy View Post
Sorry, this is odd, but I'm getting frustrated what bike to get or keep.

I bought the Roubaix Expert 2019 (This years model), last week, but now I'm worried it won't be a great bike (from the nay-sayers). So now I'm perplexed if I should get the 2020 Tarmac Disc Di2 (Cheaper, but Tarmac) as its the only color combo I like, or get the 2020 Roubaix Expert? I want to use it for Endurance Racing, Communtting and racing. However, where I live in Montana its a lot of uphill and downhill.

I have the option to pay restocking fee and go for the more expensive Roubaix 2020, or get the cheaper Tarmac Disc Di2 .. I'm new to this bike thing and I want a good bike (and yes, I'm aware all of these bikes are fantastic) but people keep saying my 2019 will be super slow .... So Do I pay the restocking fee, and get the 2020, Disc Comp Di2, or keep my current bike? Any help would be great
It's always been My experience that someone who trashes another purchase he usually can't afford what you bought . So he demeans it > Plus you have to keep in mind Everyone is a Doctor, a Lawyer and a Bike Expert, Gun Expert, Master Guitar {Player} . AND ALL THE WOMEN LOVE HIM He's a Legend in his own mind : The heart is wicked and deceitful . Many love to POP someones Bubble : You're New So perfect Target

Get what satisfies You within Your Means : Nobody can keep up with the Jones : So don't worry about them. They've maxed out their credit anyway
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Old 09-26-19, 03:11 PM
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Ride the bike you bought and enjoy it if it feels right when you ride.

Heck I purchased a new (never ridden) 2013 Orbea Orca in January 2015 because I wanted a nice bike and the price was right. So far I have upgraded the pedals, saddle, bars, stem, groupset, and wheels as I could afford to ride the bike as is for a bit while I saved for a component or two.

My wheels cost 1/2 what I paid for the bike, but they are Rolf wheels and support my weight very well.
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Originally Posted by thedemoncowboy View Post
Sorry, this is odd, but I'm getting frustrated what bike to get or keep.

I bought the Roubaix Expert 2019 (This years model), last week, but now I'm worried it won't be a great bike (from the nay-sayers). So now I'm perplexed if I should get the 2020 Tarmac Disc Di2 (Cheaper, but Tarmac) as its the only color combo I like, or get the 2020 Roubaix Expert? I want to use it for Endurance Racing, Communtting and racing. However, where I live in Montana its a lot of uphill and downhill.

I have the option to pay restocking fee and go for the more expensive Roubaix 2020, or get the cheaper Tarmac Disc Di2 .. I'm new to this bike thing and I want a good bike (and yes, I'm aware all of these bikes are fantastic) but people keep saying my 2019 will be super slow .... So Do I pay the restocking fee, and get the 2020, Disc Comp Di2, or keep my current bike? Any help would be great
Keep the bike. Find new friends.

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Old 09-27-19, 05:40 AM
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Remember, no matter how much you spend, (on anything) there is likely to be something better. It might be the next model year, but it will happen.
No matter how much you spend there is likely to be someone faster on something cheaper. And someone slower on something more expensive.

And to the OP - you will be the same speed on either bike, so get whatever you like better.

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Originally Posted by thedemoncowboy View Post
Im going tarmac, but cant choose color
The Roubaix and Tarmac have pretty different stack and reach measurements. If you were comfortable on a Roubaix, then the Tarmac in that same size will fit a lot differently. You are totally good with that and it doesnt affect you at all?


Funny enough- the rest of the geometry between the bikes is quite similar. In the largest size, the HTA is only .5 degree different with both being aggressive, the STA is the same, BB drop is within a few mm, chainstay length is less than 1cm different, fork rake is the same, trail is the same, etc.
You still never explained WHY the Roubaix is viewed as being so much 'worse'.

...but I also doubt all this is actually happening, so I wont hold my breath waiting to hear details.
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Originally Posted by billyymc View Post
No matter how much you spend there is likely to be someone faster on something cheaper. And someone slower on something more expensive.

And to the OP - you will be the same speed on either bike, so get whatever you like better.
I very much agree that both are True.
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Originally Posted by big john View Post
That Tarmac will smoke your Roubaix? They're not motorcycles. You will find riders on beat up cheap bikes who can smoke YOU, regardless of which bike you are riding.
I have an expensive bike and people drop me all the time.
This. You'll realize it's not the bike when you get gapped by a homeless dude on a 15 year old Mongoose MBX as he creaks by with a broken pedal and a gripshift wrapped around the handlebar, bouncing along to meet that 3pm shelter deadline.
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This has been educational. I now know that there are people whose bike decisions revolve around, well this:
Originally Posted by tagaproject6 View Post
Just go with what you think will impress the cycling clique more annd thus elevate your status within.
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Originally Posted by surak View Post
This has been educational. I now know that there are people whose bike decisions revolve around, well this:
I mean, give the guy a break. He is new to the sport, and he is hearing all kinds of things from "experienced cyclists" about the bike he just spent a bunch of money on. It is natural that he would be worried whether he made the right choice...

On topic: There really is no wrong choice here, assuming you are comfortable on both bikes. Just enjoy it.
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Originally Posted by maartendc View Post
I mean, give the guy a break. He is new to the sport, and he is hearing all kinds of things from "experienced cyclists" about the bike he just spent a bunch of money on. It is natural that he would be worried whether he made the right choice...
The outcome, after many very helpful responses flew right over OP's head, is a classic case of "you can lead a horse to water, but..."

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