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Old 12-15-20, 12:05 PM
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Yea, I have a hunch the wifey may not want to ride in this one with me either.... Has no AC, aluminum bucket racing seats, and very little insulation (neither acoustic or thermal).
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Old 12-16-20, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Nixhex View Post
So, I currently have a 2003 Specialized Cr-mo Allez with ultegra 6500 (2x9) and I really like it. It looks sweet, it handles really well, in general I like it a lot.


But... I've got the bike lust.


There's a 2016 Focus Cayo AL with Ultegra 6800 2x11 on FB near me for $500. That seems to me like quite a deal. And for some reason in my mind I feel like the Focus will be faster. And also prob look cooler with the 50mm carbon wheels I have.


Talk me off the ledge. Tell me my Allez is fine and I don't need new(er) shinier things!
Steel is returning to the pro peloton. Too many riders have had enough with their bikes falling apart at dangerous moments. If you have "gotta replace" lust check out Waterford Racing models.
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Old 12-16-20, 04:22 PM
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Steel is returning to the pro peloton. Too many riders have had enough with their bikes falling apart at dangerous moments.
In which universe is this happening?
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Old 12-16-20, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mcours2006 View Post
That's a steal. The 6800 groupset alone is probably worth the price. Go for it.
Which makes me wonder if the ad is legit. Things
too good to be true...
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Old 12-16-20, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Nixhex View Post
I'm just getting into road cycling as of April/May of this year because I couldn't go to the gym, so I bought the Allez because it was inexpensive (paid $320 for it), and it allowed me to see what I think about road biking. At this point, I'm all in and I'm loving it. But because I'm new I don't really have a good idea of what it is I like in a bike yet, so I'm definitely trying out different bikes wherever possible.
Hang out for carbon, till you can afford closer to $1k. Have you ridden a 7kg bike?
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Old 12-16-20, 08:18 PM
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Hang out for carbon, till you can afford closer to $1k. Have you ridden a 7kg bike?
I have not. But I've always heard weight doesn't make all that much difference.
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Old 12-16-20, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Nixhex View Post
I have not. But I've always heard weight doesn't make all that much difference.
It doesn't make any real difference to how fast you go, but it makes a lot of difference to how much fun the bike is.

First, light tyres, tubes, rims. Then light seat, bars, levers, stem and so on.

... Also, you might be faster on a carbon bike simply because you get less fatigued from not having to lift your bum so much over bumps.

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Old 12-19-20, 02:14 PM
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Just following up on this. I messaged the guy a few days back about it, and chatted about it a bit, asked him if he was negotiable, etc, etc. Told him I'd come check it out if i got some free time, and left it at that.

He messaged me yesterday afternoon out if the blue and said he'd take $400 if I'd come buy it that day....

So i bought it last night. It's in great shape except for a scuff on the right seat stay. Also, newer Ultegra shifts waaaaay better than the stuff on my Allez. Now I just have to ride it a bit and decide if I'm going to try to sell the focus for a profit, or keep it and sell the allez.
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Old 12-19-20, 02:21 PM
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Ona related note, my neighbor just told me his 2016 Focus Cayo AL with Ultegra 6800 2x11 was stolen while he was vacationing in New Mexico .... let me know if you see it.
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Ona related note, my neighbor just told me his 2016 Focus Cayo AL with Ultegra 6800 2x11 was stolen while he was vacationing in New Mexico .... let me know if you see it.
Is he in tulsa, ok? What color?
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Old 12-19-20, 03:20 PM
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LOL ... I wasn't sure if I needed a smiley face there or not ... and not sure if you implied one.

Just kidding.

Anyway ... grats on the new bike.
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Old 12-19-20, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
LOL ... I wasn't sure if I needed a smiley face there or not ... and not sure if you implied one.

Just kidding.

Anyway ... grats on the new bike.
Yesss.... we'll assume I did, lol. <<<gullible.
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Old 12-22-20, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Nixhex View Post
So, I currently have a 2003 Specialized Cr-mo Allez with ultegra 6500 (2x9) and I really like it. It looks sweet, it handles really well, in general I like it a lot.


But... I've got the bike lust.


There's a 2016 Focus Cayo AL with Ultegra 6800 2x11 on FB near me for $500. That seems to me like quite a deal. And for some reason in my mind I feel like the Focus will be faster. And also prob look cooler with the 50mm carbon wheels I have.


Talk me off the ledge. Tell me my Allez is fine and I don't need new(er) shinier things!
newer always better faster just better....do it.
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Old 12-22-20, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RiceAWay View Post
Steel is returning to the pro peloton. Too many riders have had enough with their bikes falling apart at dangerous moments. If you have "gotta replace" lust check out Waterford Racing models.
NO
No
no
it is not....i love steel but anope.
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Old 12-27-20, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Nixhex View Post
So, I currently have a 2003 Specialized Cr-mo Allez with ultegra 6500 (2x9) and I really like it. It looks sweet, it handles really well, in general I like it a lot.


But... I've got the bike lust.


There's a 2016 Focus Cayo AL with Ultegra 6800 2x11 on FB near me for $500. That seems to me like quite a deal. And for some reason in my mind I feel like the Focus will be faster. And also prob look cooler with the 50mm carbon wheels I have.


Talk me off the ledge. Tell me my Allez is fine and I don't need new(er) shinier things!
go for it
YOLO
life is too short to ride ****ty bikes
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Old 12-27-20, 07:26 PM
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go for it
YOLO
life is too short to ride ****ty bikes
Already did, lol. It's in the garage rn. Although I will say, I think I still like the allez better....
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Already did, lol. It's in the garage rn. Although I will say, I think I still like the allez better....
i bought a BMC road machine 01 but also prefered my old BMC SLC01 pro machine better because the frame didnít crack at the seat post.
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i bought a BMC road machine 01 but also prefered my old BMC SLC01 pro machine better because the frame didnít crack at the seat post.
Are you saying your specific frame cracked at the seatpost, or that frame set in general had a reputation for cracking there? In either case, that seems like a solid reason to prefer the old frame....
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Originally Posted by Nixhex View Post
So, I currently have a 2003 Specialized Cr-mo Allez with ultegra 6500 (2x9) and I really like it. It looks sweet, it handles really well, in general I like it a lot.


But... I've got the bike lust.


There's a 2016 Focus Cayo AL with Ultegra 6800 2x11 on FB near me for $500. That seems to me like quite a deal. And for some reason in my mind I feel like the Focus will be faster. And also prob look cooler with the 50mm carbon wheels I have.


Talk me off the ledge. Tell me my Allez is fine and I don't need new(er) shinier things!
Um, it it were me I would be buying that bike yesterday, provided it fit. Do it!
ps congrats on the new bike. I would definitely ride it enough times before you decide to resell it or keep it. That was a great deal indeed.

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Old 12-30-20, 08:10 PM
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Um, it it were me I would be buying that bike yesterday, provided it fit. Do it!
I did buy it. and then I rode it a bit, and decided I liked the allez better. And today I sold it for a few bucks more than I bought it for....
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I did buy it. and then I rode it a bit, and decided I liked the allez better. And today I sold it for a few bucks more than I bought it for....
It is personal preference, but overall, I find I enjoy riding steel bikes more than other materials as well. Specing it with new materials (wheels and tires are the biggest bang for your buck performance change) can do wonders. I personally still like Thompson stems and seat posts for my bikes, but there is nothing wrong with adding carbon seatpost and cockpit to reduce weight as well. You can get quite a light frame by doing all of that, and have a ton fun.
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Originally Posted by Het Volk View Post
It is personal preference, but overall, I find I enjoy riding steel bikes more than other materials as well. Specing it with new materials (wheels and tires are the biggest bang for your buck performance change) can do wonders. I personally still like Thompson stems and seat posts for my bikes, but there is nothing wrong with adding carbon seatpost and cockpit to reduce weight as well. You can get quite a light frame by doing all of that, and have a ton fun.
I'm in the process of getting the Allez setup with a SRAM 1x11 drivetrain right now. Have a set of 50mm carbon wheels I may throw on it, but I really like the look of the Roval SL 25s I have also. We'll see.
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