TT position on group rides
11-30-20, 06:35 PM
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TT position on group rides
I'm aware that aerobars are often banned on group rides.
I don't use aerobar but I cruise mostly in TT position with my **forearms** (typo pointed out by tomato coupe) rested on the ramps and holding the hoods at the top of the brake lever (you can't press the brake lever in that position unless you slide your fingers down). It's the most comfortable / rested position for me, not to mention, fast and efficient. However, is it allowed in group rides? Allowed for the lead rider?
I don't have issues braking with the position since you can quickly slide your fingers down to grab the brake levers. Although it's still not as quick as normally holding the hoods with the fingers already on the brake levers.
I don't use aerobar but I cruise mostly in TT position with my **forearms** (typo pointed out by tomato coupe) rested on the ramps and holding the hoods at the top of the brake lever (you can't press the brake lever in that position unless you slide your fingers down). It's the most comfortable / rested position for me, not to mention, fast and efficient. However, is it allowed in group rides? Allowed for the lead rider?
I don't have issues braking with the position since you can quickly slide your fingers down to grab the brake levers. Although it's still not as quick as normally holding the hoods with the fingers already on the brake levers.
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11-30-20, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cubewheels
However, is it allowed in group rides? Allowed for the lead rider?
11-30-20, 06:48 PM
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Around here, I don't think anyone would have an issue with it if you were on the front or off the back. Anywhere in the group, and you should be able to cover your brakes.
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11-30-20, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cubewheels
However, is it allowed in group rides? Allowed for the lead rider?
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11-30-20, 07:09 PM
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How is it possible to rest your elbows on the bars and grab the hoods? That would require really short arms or really long bars.
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11-30-20, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by asgelle
You realize there is no universal set of rules for group rides, don't you? Some groups I ride with have no problem with someone with aerobars; others get nervous if people ride on the tops away from the brakes. Why don't you ask the people you want to ride with?
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11-30-20, 07:44 PM
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11-30-20, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged
There is no way I would participate in any group ride where some of the riders are using aerobars.
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11-30-20, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged
There is no way I would participate in any group ride where some of the riders are using aerobars.
Strong time trialists with inadequate group experience can create trouble when they hop in with a fast pack, but the issue is the rider, not the bike.
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11-30-20, 08:16 PM
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Thanks everyone! caloso I guess I can simply stay in the hoods when I'm in the middle. A bit less comfortable but manageable, just need to alternate drops and hoods.
11-30-20, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
How is it possible to rest your elbows on the bars and grab the hoods? That would require really short arms or really long bars.
Should be forearms, not elbows!
The hoods in my setup is angled lower than average to extend the reach of the hoods a little bit. Most of the forearms is unsupported so you still need to have good core strength and if possible, light upperbody weight to be comfortable in the position for long periods.
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11-30-20, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by asgelle
You'll have to ask the UCI.
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11-30-20, 09:44 PM
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The entire point of riding in a group is to create a draft that everyone in the group can take advantage. To that end extreme TT positions and aerotucks are not really needed to go fast.
Whatever your position, as long as you aren’t squirrelly and a nice smooth rider that cranks out a consistent speed and rides in a straight line you should be OK.
Whatever your position, as long as you aren’t squirrelly and a nice smooth rider that cranks out a consistent speed and rides in a straight line you should be OK.
11-30-20, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by billridesbikes
The entire point of riding in a group is to create a draft that everyone in the group can take advantage. To that end extreme TT positions and aerotucks are not really needed to go fast.
Even in the draft it makes quite a bit of difference, but that can be dangerous if the group isn't well-coordinated and exhibiting good judgement.
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Originally Posted by cubewheels
Lol, typo! Corrected now.
Should be forearms, not elbows!
The hoods in my setup is angled lower than average to extend the reach of the hoods a little bit. Most of the forearms is unsupported so you still need to have good core strength and if possible, light upperbody weight to be comfortable in the position for long periods.
Should be forearms, not elbows!
The hoods in my setup is angled lower than average to extend the reach of the hoods a little bit. Most of the forearms is unsupported so you still need to have good core strength and if possible, light upperbody weight to be comfortable in the position for long periods.
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Originally Posted by Dean V
Anyone else think of "Timtak" when they saw that photo?
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Originally Posted by asgelle
You realize there is no universal set of rules for group rides, don't you?
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Originally Posted by asgelle
You realize there is no universal set of rules for group rides, don't you? Some groups I ride with have no problem with someone with aerobars; others get nervous if people ride on the tops away from the brakes. Why don't you ask the people you want to ride with?
This is like asking the Internet, “What does my spouse want for Christmas?“
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Literally the first thing that came to mind.
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Originally Posted by Dean V
Anyone else think of "Timtak" when they saw that photo?
12-01-20, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by HTupolev
but that can be dangerous
Too often they’re triathletes with the group riding skills of a squirrel on cocaine.
I like to have epidermis not be spread all over fresh chip-seal.
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Originally Posted by cubewheels
Lol, typo! Corrected now.
Should be forearms, not elbows!
The hoods in my setup is angled lower than average to extend the reach of the hoods a little bit. Most of the forearms is unsupported so you still need to have good core strength and if possible, light upperbody weight to be comfortable in the position for long periods.
Should be forearms, not elbows!
The hoods in my setup is angled lower than average to extend the reach of the hoods a little bit. Most of the forearms is unsupported so you still need to have good core strength and if possible, light upperbody weight to be comfortable in the position for long periods.
If someone showed up to my group ride on that bike, I'd have several concerns.
12-01-20, 10:49 AM
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Why don't you actually go and do a group ride first?
All your questions will be immediately answered.
All your questions will be immediately answered.
12-01-20, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by billridesbikes
That’s why won’t ride in a group where guys are using TT bars.
Too often they’re triathletes with the group riding skills of a squirrel on cocaine.
Too often they’re triathletes with the group riding skills of a squirrel on cocaine.
