bobbycorno

Ow! Ow!! OW!!!! It hurts just LOOKING at that one!

SP
OC, OR

pastorbobnlnh 

The one I ride the most. Ideale 90 frame sporting RHM's #10 skin.


The second most used non-Brooks. A Wrights W3N.


An early '60s Schwinn Approved known as a Sprint, which I laced and is quite comfortable.


An Ideale 45 and a Middlemore.

Cougrrcj

Like Scottryder, my '75 Fuji S-10S still has it's original Fujita Belt saddle (sorry, no close-up pic)

Pasorbobnlnh, I want that yellow seat bag on the maroon bike in the background. Cannondale 'Toot'. I've been looking for over three years for another to replace mine that got sold at my parent's garage sale...

rhm

That's a Wrights frame, just like Fender1's.

Chombi

Regarding leather saddle frames, I noticed that there are generally two types of the spring-less frames out there, one with the frame rails raised up at the nose so you don't see much of it, and one with frame rails staying low till almost the tension adjuster assembly. First I thought that the ones with the lowered frame rails at the nose allowed for more adjustment to push the saddle back. but I noticed that on my Brooks Imperial (and I suspect other similar non-Brooks saddles), that it doesn't really do that as the rails curve inwards almost immediately after the center of the saddle, so not much rearward adjustment if any is gained with the dropped rails, I think. I suspect that the other saddles that have this type of rails might do the same(?).......so why even have the rails low at the nose then?? Is it just to accommodate a bit more of sag at the nose for the leather cover as I suspect might be the case if the saddle is used in a more upright position on a bike (sort of more of a "hammock" effect) ????

Chombi

Bone Machine

Ideale 80:

Chombi

I guess you have to adjust those saddles higher than usual....... Sit bones??? Manly men trackies don't have those!!....Ow!!....Owie!!

rootboy 

That's pretty cool. And strange! Is it really as thin as it looks, Scott? Can we see a shot of the rails? Or ....rail?

ScottRyder 

Ha! Yea, it's pretty narrow, two rails, just 44mm straight backs .... I'm looking forward to a test ride just to see how the comfort level is.



Scott

rootboy 

Thanks. Better wear yer padded shorts.

ScottRyder 

Don't need no stinkin' padded shorts! oh wait, yes, good idea! I'll do a shot tomorrow with the other Fujita for width comparison ...

Scott

Lenton58 

I would not say that this is the world's most perfect saddle, but if I could obtain two or three more I'd rush to get them. Lepper Voyager — built on Reynolds 531 tubing. It is light for a leather saddle — 265 grams!. Adjustment is not easy and I popped a rivet through the frame and replaced it with a screw and washer. And yes ... I'd still like another two copies.

EDIT: I should add that there was, and may still be, a newer version of this Dutch saddle. In my opinion, it should have been given another name as it does not resemble this model (above) in any way except the shape. The new model has an extra layer of leather that is bonded on the underside and an entirely different frame.

The original Voyager from the late 90's - early 2000's was flawed and was altered while in production. The altered series is reported to have a frame that was redesigned by Alex Moulten whereby the hollow rails were given a torsional aspect that was missing in the original. I have one of the later specimens. Despite it's apparent imperfections, I like it. I do not think that I would be interested in the newer version unless I could examine one in person.

gomango

They were talking about this one on our ride yesterday.

A Rivet "Independence" that looks interesting.

https://rivetcycleworks.com/

ScottRyder 

Width comparison between the Fujita Professional Super track and the Fujita Professional Super road.



And yes, it has hurt written all over it.

Scott

Italuminium

I wonder why Lepper never really made it to the anglophone cycling scene.

rootboy 

Scott. Will it mount on standard seat post cradles?

rootboy 

Interesting. Looks pretty nice, aside from that plastic saddle bag loop thing. Anybody try one of these?

furballi

Nice but very expensive leather. The cut-out leather appears to be thick, but without meaningful flaps, long-term durability may be in question. Lacing the flaps will significantly extend the useful life of the saddle.

rhm

It appears to have flaps underneath, presumably riveted together as on a Brooks Swallow, so it won't need to be laced.

gomango

I don't experiment with saddles, but some of the Berthoud models look great.

So does this one, although I am not a fan of the "plastic" either.

Maybe I'll branch out on a planned build for next year and try one of these.

They aren't that much more than the Swifts I use.

ScottRyder 

Unfortunately, yes. Which means I have to ride and experience the pleasure of it's narrow width.

Scott

gomango

Here is a pic.

rhm

Is there something special about the frame design? If so, I'd like to see some photos of the frame.

The interesting thing about non-Brooks saddles is the different frames. Brooks hasn't changed their design in over fifty years, which is nice if you appreciate continuity, but frankly it is not a great design. Others are better. I particularly liked the Selle anatomica saddle I worked on. It had a much better nose design.

rhm

Is there something special about the frame design? If so, I'd like to see some photos of the frame.

The interesting thing about non-Brooks saddles is the different frames. Brooks hasn't changed their design in over fifty years, which is nice if you appreciate continuity, but frankly it is not a great design. Others are better. I particularly liked the Selle anatomica saddle I worked on. It had a much better nose design.

rootboy 

As long as your voice doesn't go up in pitch afterwords.