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Old 07-09-20, 07:46 AM
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I've posted about my Frejus here before, and have been adapting the too large frame to fit. These sorts of bikes are seldom encountered where I live. I was set on keeping it as close to stock as I could.


I decided to pretend it was 1980 and that I inherited this as a hand me down from an older brother who bought it in 1964 and was taller than me but moved away and hasn't ridden it for years. As a young kid in 1980 I wouldn't have thought about being period correct or have had much money. So, stem and bars went first to get a decent French fit.



SR raddner bars and a stem I had on hand

That worked swell but my brother must have been lots stronger too, as that gearing wasn't something I could handle with the 47-50 crank rings.

Campy Gran Sport and 14-22 five speed


I then changed to a 14-28 freewheel like many 10 speeds had, but found that the Campy couldn't handle it. Well I went to the LBS, and they sold be a Suntour 7 that did just fine and shifted the freewheel just fine. Hooray, I could now ride the bike.



Suntour 7 from co-op

workable gearing and shifting

That was the pretend part. I first tried a sun tour compact 6 speed in 14-26 and the Gran Sport was crunchy on the 20-23 and 23-26 shifts. It just wasn't pleasant. After the changes, the bike was fun and a pleasant ride. To this now old guy, it felt way sportier than it looks.




Not period correct, but rideable now at least. The ride for some reason inspired me to be more aggressive and I am now pleased. Unlike 1980, I have all the old parts saved in a box to go with the bike.
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Old 07-09-20, 08:08 AM
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That's a beauty! What does your brother think about it? Are the mudguards original?
Put some more expensive tires on it and you'll really maximize its sportiness.
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Nice to see you have retained the Sportman hubs. They are relatively late ones since they came with Tipo skewers.

There is an Ambrosio I-beam stem of the extension you have on there in case you would care to keep an eye out for one. The clamp size is 26.0mm. It would be roughly period correct. 1964 was approximately the first year for the 3TTT Tourist stem and bar set which came with the machine.

Remember to keep all the takeoffs together in a safe place so it could be put back to OEM configuration if ever so wished in the future.

Chainset looks to be Way-Assauto.

Find it unlikely that the Lyotard model 36 pedals would have been OEM. Sheffields more probable.

Wonderful it is in such outstanding all original condition!

Thank you for posting.

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Actually....

Originally Posted by Charles Wahl View Post
That's a beauty! What does your brother think about it? Are the mudguards original?
Put some more expensive tires on it and you'll really maximize its sportiness.
Actually the brother story was just a pretend story as my excuse to desecrate a vintage collectible. I actually bought this local on Craig’s a year ago. I wanted to experience some Italian riding.The mudguards are original. I have new pasela 28s on it as pictured and to me they feel very nice.

Earlier discussion
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...de-france.html

As recommended, I have saved all the parts. I guess to me it is better to have a vintage frame I can ride and experience than having a wall hanger. As discussed, this is mid level so not really so valuable anyhow. The wide ratio 5 speed and older rear derailleur and steel chainrigs give enough nostalgia. The driveline harkens back to the 70s rather than the 50s which is just fine as I want to ride it, not fight it.
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Old 07-09-20, 09:32 AM
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Glad to hear a Frejus success story. It looks beautiful.
I’ll have to read your earlier thread, musta missed it.

I have a much lower model -1960’s - that was (in a sense) gifted to me.
tall with short tt (60X55), just does NOT work with drop handlebars. Not even with 14 cm stem!
I decided not to make it into a tall city bike that I would not ride.
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Old 07-09-20, 03:20 PM
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Actually the brother story was just a pretend story as my excuse to desecrate a vintage collectible.
Sorry to be abstruse; it was just a snarky invitation to find out (by means of your own fictional setting) whether you have conflicted feelings. Just a joke. Enjoy it, like I would!
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Ah, I see

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Sorry to be abstruse; it was just a snarky invitation to find out (by means of your own fictional setting) whether you have conflicted feelings. Just a joke. Enjoy it, like I would!
Actually for the original post, I thought about my fictional brother perhaps moving away in the “Summer of love” in 1968, or perhaps being missing in Vietnam. Nah, keep it simple and non political.
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You should disown your imaginary brother. Maybe look for another that is your size... brother, that is!!!

P.S. Nice Frejus!!
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Old 07-09-20, 05:25 PM
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Too funny!!
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In honor of the photos provided by the OP, I suggest a new acronym for C&V people:

TB;DR







(Too beautiful; didn't read.)
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Send me your unwanted Gran Sport derailleur.

In 1964 it would be very normal to see Italian bikes with that amount of seatpost showing. Not too big at all. The handlebars would be lower if racing that Frejus - and most who bought a Frejus would have at least some connection to the race world. The larger frame saves you from the dreaded stork stem. So it looks just right.
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Beautiful bike! My 60's Frejus had belonged to someone who had raced in the 60's 70's and 80's and he had changed some of the parts as time went on. He stopped racing it in the 70's but partially stripped parts off it to outfit another bike so when I got it, it was missing the wheels and crank. I decided to put on a nice but very unoriginal 80's Campy SR drive train. Only problem is for some reason I feel I have to point out to anyone looking at the bike that the crank's aren't original. They don't care
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Old 07-18-20, 07:47 AM
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I had to stick with this 47/50 steel crank for the looks and authenticity. It is geared fairly tall even for the flatlands, hence the new gearing in back. My understanding was that fancier Frejus bikes in the day had the 3 piece crank. It is a fun ride now, and the rear “upgrades” might have been appropriate for 1975-1980 or so. Nice riding frame.
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