View Poll Results: Which option on eyelets/headsets?
Drew the eyelets and keep the Stronglight headset.
5
9.80%
Drew the eyelets and get a Campagnolo headset.
11
21.57%
Keep the eyelets and the Stronglight headset.
16
31.37%
Keep the eyelets and get a Campagnolo headset.
19
37.25%
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Poll: Headset choice and Drewing
10-20-11, 06:00 PM
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Poll: Headset choice and Drewing
I'm going to paint and build a 1989 Cinelli SC that has already been stripped.
However, it has eyelets brazed to it, fore and aft. Not my cup-o-tea.
Locally, no one will touch it, they all say "no" to heat and recommend I grind them off.
It also came with a nice Stronglight A9 headset. I've been looking at Campy.
The used prices are as high as a new Record threadless. The Stronglight is pretty nice.
I need advice, and poll numbers, because I can't seem to decide anything lately.
However, it has eyelets brazed to it, fore and aft. Not my cup-o-tea.
Locally, no one will touch it, they all say "no" to heat and recommend I grind them off.
It also came with a nice Stronglight A9 headset. I've been looking at Campy.
The used prices are as high as a new Record threadless. The Stronglight is pretty nice.
I need advice, and poll numbers, because I can't seem to decide anything lately.
10-20-11, 06:03 PM
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Maybe one of the Velo Orange offerings. I've had a Stronglight on the Battaglin for the last 15 years with zero problems.
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Stronglight A9 is great, but I understand if you don't like the Italo/Franco mix on such an Italian frame. You can maybe go with a Miche Primato (Italian) needle bearing headset, if you want similar performance.......and maybe durability (Can't totally vouch for Miche as much as Stronglight in that category).
I agree about grinding the eyelets off to avoid any heat damage to the frame and the brazing at the DOs. I assume that the DOs are painted anyway and that you will not see the work, but as long as you take your time, you might be able to do it clean enough to make it almost undetectabel.
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I agree about grinding the eyelets off to avoid any heat damage to the frame and the brazing at the DOs. I assume that the DOs are painted anyway and that you will not see the work, but as long as you take your time, you might be able to do it clean enough to make it almost undetectabel.
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10-20-11, 06:09 PM
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What's your build plan? Mostly vintage Campagnolo?
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Robbie, you can get a new Campy threaded headset for under $100, and take the silkscreen logo off. My LBS has them in stock (https://www.treefortbikes.com/#navbar...22355458___124). If you have connections, I think QBP prices them around $50.
Dremel and sand/file the fender mounts. Buy a 10 spd Centaur group from Velomine. I may have an extra set of Open Pros laced to Chorus/Record 10 spd in AZ. I'll be there in a few weeks.
Dremel and sand/file the fender mounts. Buy a 10 spd Centaur group from Velomine. I may have an extra set of Open Pros laced to Chorus/Record 10 spd in AZ. I'll be there in a few weeks.
10-20-11, 06:45 PM
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Grind 'em and sand smooth, use the Campagnolo headset. It's a Cinelli, for Christ's sake.
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Glad I tied things up. Can't believe you can't make a decision. Do what feels best.
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Dropouts are chrome, far enough away not to be compromised.
Record headset is $80-$85 shipped, I'm a little worried about stack height.
Build plan is set, group and wheels are here.
Maybe I'm too cheap to own this bike....then again, I just bought the seat stay buttons and a proper binder bolt. ouch!
Record headset is $80-$85 shipped, I'm a little worried about stack height.
Build plan is set, group and wheels are here.
Maybe I'm too cheap to own this bike....then again, I just bought the seat stay buttons and a proper binder bolt. ouch!
10-20-11, 09:18 PM
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Add more eyelets and use a Tange HS.
10-21-11, 06:03 AM
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That's what I'm here for- virtual confession time. 
I see I am being far and away out voted on leaving the bike be.
I guess I could throw down all the guilt nonsense of "It's only original once, yada, yada, yada...," 
but that won't do since I'm pretty guilty of that C&V sin. 
But I think I see another trend emerging--- you are going after "sex appeal."
It's more manly, and virile, and studly, to ride a bike sans eyelets decked out in Macho Italian Campy. 
Robbie, it is time to get in touch with your softer side.
Think fenders. Imagine racks. Dream about bells and handlebar bags. All while leisurely riding through the NC countryside wearing tweed on your Gentleman Cinelli SC. 
Don't forget, we will demand pictures.
I see I am being far and away out voted on leaving the bike be.
I guess I could throw down all the guilt nonsense of "It's only original once, yada, yada, yada...," but that won't do since I'm pretty guilty of that C&V sin. But I think I see another trend emerging--- you are going after "sex appeal."
It's more manly, and virile, and studly, to ride a bike sans eyelets decked out in Macho Italian Campy. Robbie, it is time to get in touch with your softer side.
Think fenders. Imagine racks. Dream about bells and handlebar bags. All while leisurely riding through the NC countryside wearing tweed on your Gentleman Cinelli SC. Don't forget, we will demand pictures.
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I voted to keep the eyelets and go Campy, and here's why:
First, as to the headset. It's just a matter of doing the thing right. In my mind, the names 'Cinelli' and 'Campagnolo' go together. Anything that can say Campagnolo on it should say Campagnolo on it, unless it can say Cinelli on it, in which case it should say Cinelli on it.
Eyelets. I say keep them because I like them. Since you ask, I assume they were nicely done; am I right? If they' were sloppy workmanship you wouldn't have asked at all. If it's just a matter that you don't like them, and they're not original anyway, you shouldn't have asked my opinion to begin with. Since you say they are not your cuppatea, I presume you don't have a bike with fenders? Well, then, you need one. The trick will be to find Cinelli branded fenders... .
Have you chosen a color for the frame? I suggest a color that will work well with black fenders; but would not rule out having a pair of fenders painted the same color as the frame. Now, that would look sharp.
First, as to the headset. It's just a matter of doing the thing right. In my mind, the names 'Cinelli' and 'Campagnolo' go together. Anything that can say Campagnolo on it should say Campagnolo on it, unless it can say Cinelli on it, in which case it should say Cinelli on it.
Eyelets. I say keep them because I like them. Since you ask, I assume they were nicely done; am I right? If they' were sloppy workmanship you wouldn't have asked at all. If it's just a matter that you don't like them, and they're not original anyway, you shouldn't have asked my opinion to begin with
. Since you say they are not your cuppatea, I presume you don't have a bike with fenders? Well, then, you need one. The trick will be to find Cinelli branded fenders... .Have you chosen a color for the frame? I suggest a color that will work well with black fenders; but would not rule out having a pair of fenders painted the same color as the frame. Now, that would look sharp.
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Keep the A9 and if the eyelets are OEM leave them, if they were added remove them.
One of my golden rules is to never repalce a headset unless the old one is dead. Once a crown race is screwed its alway screwed...once headtube is loose its always loose.
One of my golden rules is to never repalce a headset unless the old one is dead. Once a crown race is screwed its alway screwed...once headtube is loose its always loose.
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I agree, the eyelets are probably OEM. The Stronglight A9 is maybe better than a Campagnolo.
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I voted to keep both since I like the saying, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
But then again, James Brown sang, "It's your thang, to do what you wanna do..." and B. T. Express told us (almost), "Drew it till you're satisfied."
So the vintage song vote seems to say to drew it...
I can't think of a Stronglight / Campagnolo mandate from vintage music.
But then again, James Brown sang, "It's your thang, to do what you wanna do..." and B. T. Express told us (almost), "Drew it till you're satisfied."
So the vintage song vote seems to say to drew it...
I can't think of a Stronglight / Campagnolo mandate from vintage music.
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Send me the A9.
Campy and keep the eyelets.
seriously it's what it came with, Cino thought they were
okay, ya know?
Pastorbob... I only did it once in college and I didn't inhale, is that okay???
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Campy and keep the eyelets.
seriously it's what it came with, Cino thought they were
okay, ya know?
Pastorbob... I only did it once in college and I didn't inhale, is that okay???
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10-21-11, 11:11 AM
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I voted campy and keep the eyelets, but was very tempted by keep both eyelets and A9. Judging by the poll results, we are not making this decision much easier for you.
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10-21-11, 11:14 AM
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The whole fenders fad on this forum irks me because I know most of these super nice bikes will NEVER see conditions where the fenders will actually be useful. Same with the SC. Drew those *****es off.