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07-19-09, 09:27 AM
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Big surprise here. Will be interesting to see how he holds up over the next 4 days of racing.
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07-19-09, 09:49 AM
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I'm really interested in seeing if this holds out to be true. It really reminds me of Kohl. All of a sudden Wiggins has come out of nowhere to be a Podium contender. Just seems fishy to me. I hate that I can't watch this sport without feeling that someone might be doping but in the past few years when people suddenly start performing amazingly it has seemed to be they doped. I hope for Wiggins it isn't the case. Remember in 2007 his whole team was dropped from the tour for one rider that was caught doping...
Just seems too good to be true.
just read he lost 20 pounds since last year. That is a tremendous amount for a professional cyclist and that could be a contributing factor. Still a little odd to me though.
Just seems too good to be true.
just read he lost 20 pounds since last year. That is a tremendous amount for a professional cyclist and that could be a contributing factor. Still a little odd to me though.
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I'm really interested in seeing if this holds out to be true. It really reminds me of Kohl. All of a sudden Wiggins has come out of nowhere to be a Podium contender. Just seems fishy to me. I hate that I can't watch this sport without feeling that someone might be doping but in the past few years when people suddenly start performing amazingly it has seemed to be they doped. I hope for Wiggins it isn't the case. Remember in 2007 his whole team was dropped from the tour for one rider that was caught doping...
Just seems too good to be true.
just read he lost 20 pounds since last year. That is a tremendous amount for a professional cyclist and that could be a contributing factor. Still a little odd to me though.
Just seems too good to be true.
just read he lost 20 pounds since last year. That is a tremendous amount for a professional cyclist and that could be a contributing factor. Still a little odd to me though.
07-19-09, 10:00 AM
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Saying the guy has finished the tour once and was 124th place...he didn't compete last year and his team was dropped for doping in 2007 and now he's a podium contender. Sounds fishy to me. The lost weight is probably a huge factor but I don't know if it turns him into a podium contender.
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I'm really interested in seeing if this holds out to be true. It really reminds me of Kohl. All of a sudden Wiggins has come out of nowhere to be a Podium contender. Just seems fishy to me. I hate that I can't watch this sport without feeling that someone might be doping but in the past few years when people suddenly start performing amazingly it has seemed to be they doped. I hope for Wiggins it isn't the case. Remember in 2007 his whole team was dropped from the tour for one rider that was caught doping...
Just seems too good to be true.
just read he lost 20 pounds since last year. That is a tremendous amount for a professional cyclist and that could be a contributing factor. Still a little odd to me though.
Just seems too good to be true.
just read he lost 20 pounds since last year. That is a tremendous amount for a professional cyclist and that could be a contributing factor. Still a little odd to me though.
07-19-09, 10:34 AM
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[QUOTE=chrisvu05;9309224]Saying the guy has finished the tour once and was 124th place...
as a domestique.
"he didn't compete last year"
he was busy winning 4 track titles
"and his team was dropped for doping in 2007"
You mean, like Astana last year?
"and now he's a podium contender. Sounds fishy to me. The lost weight is probably a huge factor but I don't know if it turns him into a podium contender"
If you want to be competitive in the mountains, you need to lose weight. Ask Armstrong, Hincapie and any number of other slimmed-down former rouleurs........
If you call a rider a cheat by association, the sport is finished. Save this take until the test results are in, then you can apologise to Wiggins at your leisure......... or we'll all be shaking our heads, along with you.
as a domestique.
"he didn't compete last year"
he was busy winning 4 track titles
"and his team was dropped for doping in 2007"
You mean, like Astana last year?
"and now he's a podium contender. Sounds fishy to me. The lost weight is probably a huge factor but I don't know if it turns him into a podium contender"
If you want to be competitive in the mountains, you need to lose weight. Ask Armstrong, Hincapie and any number of other slimmed-down former rouleurs........
If you call a rider a cheat by association, the sport is finished. Save this take until the test results are in, then you can apologise to Wiggins at your leisure......... or we'll all be shaking our heads, along with you.
07-19-09, 01:19 PM
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Success in the Giro does not equal success in Le Tour (ask Denis Menchov) nor does a poor Giro performance mean a poor Tour.
My money is on Wiggins peaking for Le Tour and riding into shape in Italy.
07-19-09, 01:38 PM
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Doesn't Garmin have extra strict doping control? I'm betting he's natural.
07-19-09, 03:42 PM
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After some of the things Wiggins has said about his old teammate Moreno (?) who got Cofidis kicked out of the tour in '07, and what he preaches to everyone, I whole-heartedly believe he's for real.
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Well Hayden Roulston is not doing too badly in his first tour. Maybe it's easier for pursuiters rather than sprinters to switch to road cycling.
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There's a long tradition of pursuiters switching to the road- or doing both simultaneously.
Cavendish is a points/ madison guy, of course.
Cavendish is a points/ madison guy, of course.
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Going from 73kg to 64 kg, would be worth something in the neighborhood of .5 watts per kg( assuming you didn't lose power) Or the difference between "pro rider" and World Class on the Coggan and Allen chart.
So if Wiggins could have lost the weight, without losing threshold power, that would explain the difference.
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Saying the guy has finished the tour once and was 124th place...he didn't compete last year and his team was dropped for doping in 2007 and now he's a podium contender. Sounds fishy to me. The lost weight is probably a huge factor but I don't know if it turns him into a podium contender.