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Old 12-06-18, 08:38 AM
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I've read the "cleans up with water" is greatly exaggerated. Some reviews seem to be of the very first batch of it and didn't sound great, but now it seems better(?) - but no info specific to track.

I was taught the old school glue procedure when I got into cycling (3 layers, day between, etc) and although I know people have success with the faster, less hassle ways... I'm kind of stuck in my ways now
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Old 12-20-18, 08:28 AM
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Now that they have been out for a while, has anyone got any thoughts on the Vittoria Pista G+ Speed tubulars?
See some for a good price, just wondering what their durability is like. Im primarily riding indoors but will be doing the odd outdoor sprint on a tarmac velodrome and wondering if they will be able to do double duty. The more robust CS versions are a-lot more expensive at the moment.

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Old 12-20-18, 10:04 AM
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In general, the Speed G+ line (as a whole) is, in my experience, just a bit less durable than the old Corsa Evo Pistas. They should handle some outdoor rides, but you really need to check them after every ride if you do. It's easy to pick up small nicks in the tread. Carry the bike to/from the track. I've had Evo's last a season+ on outdoor tracks that are by no means "nice." I have some G+'s waiting to be glued up and expect similar, but make no mistake, they are 100% race day tyres.
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In general, the Speed G+ line (as a whole) is, in my experience, just a bit less durable than the old Corsa Evo Pistas. They should handle some outdoor rides, but you really need to check them after every ride if you do. It's easy to pick up small nicks in the tread. Carry the bike to/from the track. I've had Evo's last a season+ on outdoor tracks that are by no means "nice." I have some G+'s waiting to be glued up and expect similar, but make no mistake, they are 100% race day tyres.
Yeah - they definitely would be race day only. I just bought a FFWD rear disc and they will be going on that.
My current wheels ( and what will continue to be my front wheel in combination with the disc) are shod with Continental Tempo II tyres. These are pretty decent but i thought i would opt for something a bit nicer for the disc. I usually run the Tempos on the rollers before a session - they seem to be robust enough and not having to carry training wheels everywhere makes a big difference to travel convenience.

Ive always had matched tyres in the past - any issue with having mismatched front / rears if they have different max PSI or grip for example?
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Old 12-20-18, 04:28 PM
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Ive always had matched tyres in the past - any issue with having mismatched front / rears if they have different max PSI or grip for example?
Not really, unless you are running tires that are very far apart in their inherent qualities. You also want to match tires to your preferred/most used track.

On a shallow, outdoor concrete track, you might want to run tires that trend closer to road tires in qualities. Something a little bigger, durable, and lower psi if it's bumpy and you're not pulling more G's in the turns. A steeper wood track would require a more supple casing, softer rubber, and a higher psi. Here you're looking to mitigate tire squirm to give you better feedback and more predictable handling.

I "mismatched" tires all the time to dial in what I needed/preferred from each tired based on being front or rear. The front tire on a track bike sees more forces placed upon it the steeper the track. I would put a softer, higher psi tire on the front for steep tracks for this reason. For shallow tracks I didn't really care what tire combos I was running because it's harder to get a tire to its limits on a big shallow track.
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Originally Posted by Morelock View Post
In general, the Speed G+ line (as a whole) is, in my experience, just a bit less durable than the old Corsa Evo Pistas. They should handle some outdoor rides, but you really need to check them after every ride if you do. It's easy to pick up small nicks in the tread. Carry the bike to/from the track. I've had Evo's last a season+ on outdoor tracks that are by no means "nice." I have some G+'s waiting to be glued up and expect similar, but make no mistake, they are 100% race day tyres.
Interesting. I had the opposite impression, though of course it's a slight difference as both tires are very, very light. I have a Speed on the front and an old EVO Pista on the rear, and to my eye the tread seems a hair thicker on the Speed, and the Speeds seem to have some kind of minimal coating on the sidewall, while the EVO's are bare. Whether this translates into any practical difference in durability is, well, who knows.
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