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Old 02-06-19, 08:52 AM
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"I'm an old cowhand from the Rio Grand..." I've seen those but how do you ride them? To quote the song "my legs ain't bowed". I carry a pump under the water bottle cage and I occasional brush that with my knee.
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Vegan-interesting that the bottle system works. I imagine the big factor is it being so far up the frame, closer to the headset area.
but if he puts in a full frame bag, it will be a moot point.
Yeah it has been quite solid. I almost want to get one for my touring bike but two bottles of water and one for fuel has generally been fine for me touring. The beauty of the system is you can pretty well adjust everything to where you want to put it so you can keep it in relatively the same spot or go higher or lower if needed be.
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Yeah it has been quite solid. I almost want to get one for my touring bike but two bottles of water and one for fuel has generally been fine for me touring. The beauty of the system is you can pretty well adjust everything to where you want to put it so you can keep it in relatively the same spot or go higher or lower if needed be.
neat. The one thing I do very regularly on my touring bike is to stop and take photos while still straddled on the bike. I usually skootch up to the headset area to be able to keep the bike stable with my knees (I always have sunscreen on the headset and downtube) so this could be annoying.
I too find two water bottles and one fuel is fine, plus I stick other water bottles in one of my rear panniers if need be.

but given that you say this is a good system, I'd have to say its a neat idea--before I realized it put them a lot higher , I didnt think it was practical.
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Regarding water bottle capacity, my frame is much larger than the OPs frame, so this probably would not be much of a solution for the OP, but I have three of the one liter sized disposable Smart Water brand of bottles on the bike in the photo. Only their one liter size fits in standard bike cages, the smaller ones do not fit. But I bought them to use, not dispose. They are great water bottles. A few other brands use a similar shape one liter bottle that also fits. The flip top lids that I have on two of the bottles came from other bottles.

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thats really great capacity isnt it? Pretty neat bikes those Thorns.
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"I'm an old cowhand from the Rio Grand..." I've seen those but how do you ride them? To quote the song "my legs ain't bowed". I carry a pump under the water bottle cage and I occasional brush that with my knee.
They sell another part to go with it that moves it up the frame toward the head tube.

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OP, if panniers make handling wiggly/unstable, maybe look into how much flex is in your load and load attachment. Does/did your rack flex sideways under load, are your panniers or contents shifting around much? Did your rear triangle flex under load? How heavy did you pack?

Counteracting this might reduce your problems while not having to go the bikepacking route on a small frame all the way.
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The lengths that people go to so as to avoid Camelbaks just astounds me I carry one bottle on the frame of my bikepacking bike but it usually has a sport drink in it.
As in the classic Camelbak worn on a day-hike? Because those are awful when road biking. I wear one for MTBing. The excessive sweat and heat caused by wearing a camelbak for biking totally sucks when it's for 6hrs on a drop bar bike. Tried it, deeply regretted it. I much prefer lower body temps and an aired out dry shirt, rather than a backpack glued to my now hot, sweaty back all day.
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As in the classic Camelbak worn on a day-hike? Because those are awful when road biking. I wear one for MTBing. The excessive sweat and heat caused by wearing a camelbak for biking totally sucks when it's for 6hrs on a drop bar bike. Tried it, deeply regretted it. I much prefer lower body temps and an aired out dry shirt, rather than a backpack glued to my now hot, sweaty back all day.
No, as in a classic Camelbak worn by mountain bicyclists and road bicyclists since their invention in 1989. People using them for hiking came later.

Frankly, I work harder and sweat more on a mountain bike than I ever have on a road bike. But I also have used one for 10,000 miles plus of touring. I donít find them all that sweaty especially when packed with ice. And, since they keep water cold for about 10 times as long as a water bottle as well as providing more convenient access, I find that I drink more water. Drinking lukewarm water that has been sloshing around in a plastic bottle for 6 hours is far worse than a sweaty back in my opinion.
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thats really great capacity isnt it? Pretty neat bikes those Thorns.
Thank you. I do not remember who it was on this forum years ago that pointed out that the 1 liter smart water brand bottles fit in a standard cage, but he is the one that provided the idea.

I am using some old Velo Cages that were made by Velocity, they have been out of production now for maybe a decade and a half. That cage lets me mount it lower than most typical cages because the mounting point on the cage could be adjusted by a small amount.

And the cage under the S&S coupler used non-standard length between bolts (coupler is too long) so that brand and model cage was the only cage that would fit over the coupler. They also put a third bolt underneath that a normal cage could fit in but that put the bottle position farther up the downtube than I wanted.

And I am sure you saw a velcro strap on the bottle under the downtube to make sure it stayed there. I have not lost a bottle but I probably would have without the strap.
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Thank you. I do not remember who it was on this forum years ago that pointed out that the 1 liter smart water brand bottles fit in a standard cage, but he is the one that provided the idea.

I am using some old Velo Cages that were made by Velocity, they have been out of production now for maybe a decade and a half. That cage lets me mount it lower than most typical cages because the mounting point on the cage could be adjusted by a small amount.

And the cage under the S&S coupler used non-standard length between bolts (coupler is too long) so that brand and model cage was the only cage that would fit over the coupler. They also put a third bolt underneath that a normal cage could fit in but that put the bottle position farther up the downtube than I wanted.

And I am sure you saw a velcro strap on the bottle under the downtube to make sure it stayed there. I have not lost a bottle but I probably would have without the strap.
one day I hope to remember to put some velcro straps on my list of easy peasy light doodads that can come in handy.
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neat. The one thing I do very regularly on my touring bike is to stop and take photos while still straddled on the bike. I usually skootch up to the headset area to be able to keep the bike stable with my knees (I always have sunscreen on the headset and downtube) so this could be annoying.
I too find two water bottles and one fuel is fine, plus I stick other water bottles in one of my rear panniers if need be.

but given that you say this is a good system, I'd have to say its a neat idea--before I realized it put them a lot higher , I didnt think it was practical.
Yeah that might cause some minor inconvenience but our frames can handle 3 bottles, OP might not have the luxury on their frame?
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He surel won't with the full frame bag he says he may put on.
but he'll work it out
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