Adaptive Cycling: Handcycles, Amputee Adaptation, Visual Impairment, and Other Needs Have a need for adaptive equipment to ride to compensate for a disability or loss of limb or function? This area is for discussion among those of us in the cycling world that are coming back from traumatic circumstances and tell the world, "No, you are not going to beat me down!"

What if....one handed brake fails

Reply

Old 10-04-18, 02:06 PM
  #1  
McStumpy
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 21
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
What if....one handed brake fails

As mentioned in my other thread today, I have a road bike adapted for one handed use. I use a problem solver cable doubler - a short cable runs from brifter to the doubler, with separate cables running to each brake. But Im now thinking....what if the short cable snaps? While going down a hill? Id be in trouble, yes?

anyone have / had the same concern and found a solution? Thanks
McStumpy is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-18, 03:28 PM
  #2  
McStumpy
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 21
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Or am I worrying about nothing?
McStumpy is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-18, 02:43 PM
  #3  
fietsbob 
coprolite
 
fietsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Posts: 39,503

Bikes: 8

Mentioned: 164 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6158 Post(s)
Exclamation maintenance

You have a great incentive to replace the cables every year ,
to insure they don't fail, while riding, Correct?
fietsbob is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-18, 03:43 AM
  #4  
McStumpy
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 21
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
You have a great incentive to replace the cables every year ,
to insure they don't fail, while riding, Correct?
Yep!
McStumpy is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-18, 10:10 AM
  #5  
Philphine
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 761
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 77 Post(s)
just thinking (writing?) out loud

maybe a cobbled up foot brake? maybe not for regular use but like an emergency back up. say if you were able to have rear disc brakes and rear calipers and one was hooked up to a brake lever maybe back near the rear axle, like have a bmx peg on one side with the brake set up to use like the rear brake on a motorcycle.

that all sounds too complicated now that i've written it down, but still doable with some thought on it. now i'm thinking about it as a back up brake idea for a gravity bike if i go back to work on it.
Philphine is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-18, 09:35 PM
  #6  
McBTC
Senior Member
 
McBTC's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3,653

Bikes: 2015 22 Speed

Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1430 Post(s)
Originally Posted by Philphine View Post
just thinking (writing?) out loud

maybe a cobbled up foot brake? maybe not for regular use but like an emergency back up. say if you were able to have rear disc brakes and rear calipers and one was hooked up to a brake lever maybe back near the rear axle, like have a bmx peg on one side with the brake set up to use like the rear brake on a motorcycle.

that all sounds too complicated now that i've written it down, but still doable with some thought on it. now i'm thinking about it as a back up brake idea for a gravity bike if i go back to work on it.
sounds better than a decorator brick tied to a rope. Fortunately, never heard of a brake cable breaking.
McBTC is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-19, 09:34 PM
  #7  
Arthur Peabody
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 241
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 92 Post(s)
Would it be too clunky to put levers for both wheel's brakes on the same side? I use cables until they break. (I'm able.)
Arthur Peabody is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-19, 11:51 PM
  #8  
StephenH
Uber Goober
 
StephenH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Dallas area, Texas
Posts: 11,622
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 146 Post(s)
A valid concern.
For reference, I've seen several shift cables fail, but haven't seen any brake cables fail.
And for another reference point, for years and years people rode all over creation with coaster brakes, where if one brake failed, or if they dropped or broke a chain, they didn't have any brakes.
__________________
"be careful this rando stuff is addictive and dan's the 'pusher'."
StephenH is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-19, 12:04 AM
  #9  
79pmooney
A Roadie Forever
 
79pmooney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 6,423

Bikes: (2) ti TiCycles, 2007 w/ triple and 2011 fixed, 1979 Peter Mooney, ~1983 Trek 420 now fixed and ~1973 Raleigh Carlton Competition gravel grinder

Mentioned: 86 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1443 Post(s)
I've broken brake cables. My winter/city bikes get used hard and see very little attention (and not a whole lot of daylight for 4 months of the year). The culprits are usually bends that are too tight or chafing where the cables enter and leave levers and stops. Aero levers with hidden cables under the bartape can be the hardest to notice.

I"ll second the every year cable replacement for a one handed rider. Maybe more often. I put this in the aluminum handlebar and stem category. Replacing too soon costs money to the tune $10-100. Replacing too late could well be thousands (medical expenses, etc). The time scales here are obviously quite different, but so are the replacement expenses.

Be a geek. Obsess on those cables. And keep coming back to the forum so you can share your rides!

Ben
79pmooney is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-19, 01:18 AM
  #10  
McStumpy
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 21
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thank you, all, I appreciate the advice.

​​​​​​I'm all in on the annual cable replacement, better safe than sorry.
McStumpy is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-19, 07:34 AM
  #11  
Tonyweiss
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 15
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
I agree, replace the cables.
Tonyweiss is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-19, 07:55 AM
  #12  
CliffordK
Senior Member
 
CliffordK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Eugene, Oregon, USA
Posts: 21,343
Mentioned: 144 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7759 Post(s)
Originally Posted by McBTC View Post
sounds better than a decorator brick tied to a rope. Fortunately, never heard of a brake cable breaking.
I think I've broken a couple of cables, but only with significant fraying.

Also worn out my old Universal brake levers.

Definitely avoid the vintage road bike brake levers with a split cable end (drilled is good, just not split).

If not going fast, I've stopped by just putting a foot down. Going fast??? Grind through the toes of your shoes to save your life.

You might be able to avoid some dangerous descents with mandatory stops at the bottom. But, the truth is, the only time you'll notice a brake failure is WHILE BRAKING.

For an IGH, the pedal brake is a good idea (Shimano Nexus, and a few other brands).

Fixie? 3-speed Fixed (Sturmey Archer SX3).

Typically you can't use a coaster brake with a rear derailleur. But, I suppose in an emergency, you could rip off the derailleur (maybe) to use the coaster brake if you could build a hub with a coaster brake and cassette.

Still, with good maintenance, the situation where all brakes fail would be exceptionally rare.
CliffordK is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-19, 08:02 PM
  #13  
fietsbob 
coprolite
 
fietsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Posts: 39,503

Bikes: 8

Mentioned: 164 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6158 Post(s)
Recently looked at SA website... S3X is gone.. so all that will be made have been already..
fietsbob is offline  
Reply With Quote

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service