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Old 01-28-19, 01:18 PM
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15+ years purchasing products on Amazon...I ain't dead yet...so I'm doing OK I think. And I never said anything about $12 chinese imports being a good idea from Amazon. What I did say above though is that you have to shop smart and stick with the well known brand name helmets.

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Keep ignoring the AMPLE evidence that Amazon is full of counterfeit and otherwise unsafe products.
Again...show me evidence of counterfeit bike helmets from Amazon. That's what this discussion is about correct?

What is wrong with these helmets from Amazon? Point out to me how they are counterfeit.

Giro
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=giro+bike+helmet

Bell
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=bell+bike+helmet&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Abell+bike+helmet

Mavic
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Mavic+bike+helmet&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3AMavic+bike+helmet

Kask
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Kask&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3AKask

What you think is unethical on my part (which it's not) I think is misleading on your part as you are using a broad paintbrush to say everything you buy on Amazon is junk.

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Old 01-28-19, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by prj71


I think is misleading on your part as you are using a broad paintbrush to say everything you buy on Amazon is junk.
I did not say that.

I said everything you buy on Amazon has a strong potential to be a counterfeit. Much MUCH stronger than any product bought in a real store.

That is a quantifiable statement (that I already quantified).

Anyone who doesn't believe this is just putting their head in the sand.

On Amazon, even a real listing put up in good faith by a reputable company can be filled with counterfeit products because of their dumb warehousing system. If you and I are both sellers of Product X we have to send Amazon our products for them to distribute from their warehouse. I have 10,000 units of product X that are 100% authentic. You have 1,000 units that are counterfeit. We both send our inventory to Amazon. Amazon puts all 11,000 units in the same group. When a buyer orders Product X Amazon's warehouse grabs one at random from the pile of 11,000.

It's a legitimate listing with a 90% chance to get a legitimate product. But the unscrupulous 3rd party seller infected the inventory with 1,000 fake units.

This happens on Amazon all the time.

Clothing is one of the most counterfeited products areas. But other stuff is faked too in large numbers.

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Old 01-29-19, 09:20 AM
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Sorry to hear about your bad Amazon experience. I haven't had any.
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OK, conversation is closed, I bought a Giro with the MIPS system. Thank you all for your responses and I hope we all have time to get out and ride very soon.
Be safe, Frank.
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Here's my new counterfeit helmet from Amazon

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