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Old 02-17-19, 08:30 AM
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Who still makes a triple?

And not just a long cage rear and a triple front but something along the lines of 105 or even Ultegra quality new. Please donít chime in on less gears and less weight. All my bikes have steel frames and forks. The good ship carbon sailed a long time ago. A couple extra ounces of weight arenít going to kill me.
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Bravo! If Bike One (my long gong shop on Convntry Rd) were still open all you would have to do would be to stop in. I'd have the Sugino XD600 on the shelves. QBP still lists them as in stock and any LBS with an account can get one. I haven't checked lately but TA and IRD have made triples as of at least a couple of years ago.

I have shopped eBay for the late 1980s and early 1990s Shimano triples (The Ultregra and Deore levels) with fairly routine success. And then there's the tripleizers that help convert a double to a triple. Of course I am still using tapered square BBs and threaded shells so mixing and matching axle lengths and chainlines is quite easy. Andy
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Road? What speed, 11 speed never existed outside of Campagnolo, SRAM never did it, so you're left with 10 speed from either Shimano at Tiagra (currently 4700) level, or Microshift (you will need to research that) getting cranks is the easy part, shifters the hard part.

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Old 02-17-19, 09:42 AM
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I have a 5600 series 105 groupset on my Synapse in a triple variant. I'm at a point where both shifters are getting to show their age both cosmetically and in shift quality. My rear derailleue is also not great with a newer 11-28 cassette. That is one tooth beyond its designated maximum rear cog size, and it manifests in very tricky tuning to keep the jockey wheel off the cassette in some gear combinations. The 5700 series solved this, allowing for a 30T rear cog.

I've been on the fence about what to do. I could go for a newer 5700 series of shifters and rear derailleur, but by the time I've done that I'm still using older technology and have only kicked the can down the road. Triple equipment will probably continue to disappear, and I'll remain painted into a corner.

For a little more I could upgrade the chainset too and go with a modern compact double in front and an 11sp 11-32 in back. Seems almost worth a couple hundred more, just to not be dealing with keeping outdated equipment running smoothly. And the gearing range would be no worse... even 1% better at the low end.
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what the engineers at Shimano has for their totally integrated system took the 53,39, & added the 30, for a hill gear on a race bike. \

not much of a drop, but the shifting between the 30 & 39 was quicker ,
than if the difference was bigger like a touring triple 26t.. (1/2 the size of the big ring) ..

So that's what the left brifter is made to shift , and the 53,39,30 is the OEM supplied component..
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https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/carmina.php
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You can still get an Athena 11-speed triple.

I have it. The one thing I hate is it is power-torque, which means you need an idiotic tool to remove it.
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Ebay.com or CL. Lots of triples there, some NOS, if you really need "new". As people discover compact doubles, lots of used triples also popping up at swap meets, etc. That's where I get mine.
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You can still get an Athena 11-speed triple.

I have it. The one thing I hate is it is power-torque, which means you need an idiotic tool to remove it.
Does Campy even make Athena anymore. The reason Iím looking is to replace an older Campy Comp Triple. There are very few road long cage rear derailleurs available anymore. The nice part about Campy is there is no double or triple specific front shifter until you get into the 11 speed range. Which is sadly all there is left now.
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I have two NIB Shimano FC-5703 105 road triple HT2 cranks on my shelf waiting for the ones now on my bikes to wear out. These were the last generation Shimano road triples to have a separate 74mm BCD for the granny ring. They come with 50/39/30 chainrings but the granny bolt circle will fit down to a 24T chainring. I've got mine geared 50/39/26 and they shift well paired with a 105 triple 10-speed front derailleur and a 10-speed 105 or Ultegra GS rear derailleur. They have been out of production for several years but you may be able to find them on E-bay.

Later Tiagra (FC-4603) and Ultegra (FC-6703?) triple cranks had a "tripilizer" middle chainring with a 92 mm BCD so the smallest granny chainring that fit was the factory supplied 30T.

Shimano does still make HT2 MTB and "Trekking" triple cranks and some UK and German internet dealers sell them. As Andy noted TA and, I believe, Suguino still sell square taper triple road cranks.
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Athena triple hung on for a few years after the rest of the group went out. Only the crankset, long cage RD, and shifters. But it looks like it's done for 2019. It's on Campy's website from a Google search but with nothing linking to it. Some places still have it in stock. The crank is the old smooth 5-arm and not the styled 4-arm if that's something you still want.

I got some of the shifters from Ribble about four years ago for a Shimergo build on my commuter and they worked fine with a Shimano Sora FD. I also got some of the very-bottom-group (Veloce) shifters for a Shimergo setup on my BIL's old 2x7 Diamondback Centurion road bike and they acted just like my triple shifters even though they were sold as double. That was confusing.

I suspect the new Shimano RD's are close enough in ratio to the Campagnolo to successfully work or be one speed off, but I've seen no one try it and don't have the scratch to be buying them just to do experiments.

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If black works for you:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Campagnaolo...Condition=1000
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And peter white sells TA tripleizer middle chainrings, to alter your square taper BB road crankset


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Originally Posted by cs1 View Post

Does Campy even make Athena anymore. The reason Iím looking is to replace an older Campy Comp Triple. There are very few road long cage rear derailleurs available anymore. The nice part about Campy is there is no double or triple specific front shifter until you get into the 11 speed range. Which is sadly all there is left now.
What chainrings and cassette are you looking to run? With the advent of wide-range cassettes, a lot of "short-cage" RDs have quietly mutated into medium-cage, and "medium-cage" RDs have mutated to take on a lot more capacity than before.
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https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/.../rp-prod137766
Not 105 but I think it is a really good price.
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Originally Posted by cs1 View Post

Does Campy even make Athena anymore. The reason Iím looking is to replace an older Campy Comp Triple. There are very few road long cage rear derailleurs available anymore. The nice part about Campy is there is no double or triple specific front shifter until you get into the 11 speed range. Which is sadly all there is left now.
I have a mid 1990s Campy triple crank set I don't need. NIB, tapered square 170 arm length. Andy
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I have two road bikes, both steel all-rounders of remarkably similar spec (including gear range) but 30 years apart in age. The older one is a 3 x 6 down-tube friction, and the new one is 2 x 10 Campagnolo Powershift. I gotta say that if you like advanced stuff and enjoy shifting a lot, the 2 x 10 is fine. For just going for a ride, the 3 x 6 is less demanding to maintain and to ride. Which is better depends on what you like, and I like both.


As for the original question, there have been good answers. The 110/74mm Campagnolo Racing Triple and it's lesser-cost brothers are excellent up to 8-9 speed, and maybe even 10-speed, and are common on eBay and elsewhere. Try Hilary Stone for new or like new condition. 135 mm BCD rings can be had from Stronglight and TA. The 110/74 mm Sugino XD series is really good too, and uses bog-standard 110mm BCD middle and outer chainrings. The mother-lode of triple cranksets and chainrings is Spa Cycles in the UK. Their house brand stuff is all 10-speed and very good value.


Both the Campagnolo and Sugino I mention are square taper, which IMHO is the right choice unless you are racing. Among other things, you can fiddle chainline and centering with BB spacers (a buck or two) or with alternate BB cartridges (less than 20 bucks each for good enough to get you dialed in), and the two tools you need (a good crank puller and a bottom bracket tool) are actually standardized across brands.
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Shimano made triples up to Ultegra 6703, and the parts are available on E-Bay.

There is an Octalink V2 "road" triple crankset readily available. I assume Claris (or other) shifters to go with it.
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I really like the IRD triple I put on my 1985 Trek 720.

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Rant warning!!

The problem with the otherwise nicely made Octalink cranks is the 39T limit on the 130 bolt pattern. If you ride on flat land or are stronger then many of us small old people then my problem with this 39T middle ring (on their triples) is of no mater. But I know more then a few who use a 34 or 36T middle ring so to even out the ratio steps. (And with the unavoidable 11T high gear cog out back I run a 46T big ring on most of my bikes too). I really wish a quality made 110/74 bolt pattern Octalink arm was available.

But for me the ratios are more important then an ounce or two of weight and the non issue of "stiffer" anything. Andy (46/36/26 on the Sunday club bikes)
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The problem with the otherwise nicely made Octalink cranks is the 39T limit on the 130 bolt pattern. If you ride on flat land or are stronger then many of us small old people then my problem with this 39T middle ring (on their triples) is of no mater. But I know more then a few who use a 34 or 36T middle ring so to even out the ratio steps. (And with the unavoidable 11T high gear cog out back I run a 46T big ring on most of my bikes too). I really wish a quality made 110/74 bolt pattern Octalink arm was available.

But for me the ratios are more important then an ounce or two of weight and the non issue of "stiffer" anything. Andy (46/36/26 on the Sunday club bikes)
Very true. I use 42-38-26 half step plus granny on most of my old bikes, and something like 46-36-24 on my more modern triples. And I should add that the Campy Racing Triple handles a ten-cog rear just fine.
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Ya all did not buy enough... (No OEM Penetration) but at close out ... co opting a Shimano design , the company them selves dropped ,

i got an octa link type crank with the spider and cranks

as separate pieces ... I got a spider with a 58 and 110 chainring bolt circles, making a 48, 36, 22 combination practical....


trend pressures are immense.. and if you rely on after market sales rather than the factory size orders ...good luck ...
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