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Old 09-04-14, 08:35 PM
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Ummm, no.
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I should hip you all to the Dixie Flyer: https://www.facebook.com/DixieFlyerBicycles

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This is a US-designed Chinese built carbon bike that I believe comes in at about $2000 for frame and fork. The first production batch went out this summer and a bunch of them were at the recent masters nationals. This is an effort being put together by Bobby Walthour IV. I have only ridden one in the infield so I can't really comment, but those that have them are digging them. Nice lower-cost alternative to the Dolan, step up from the Planet X and multi branded Chinese frames.

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goddammit i can't believe i called trackends dropouts. that's my own damn pet peeve. must have been a coffee-related issue.
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Look 464 AL-P 2014



I'm currently in the process of building one of these. I bought the Large, biggest size they make. 57cm seat tube, 58.4 top tube, fairly similar to my current road bike so it should fit pretty well. I'm amazed at how small a frame set looks without all the bits on it.

I'm considering some wheels made by Psimet for training and entry level racing with Velocity Deep V's, Dura-Ace cranks, and a Deda stem and Deda pista bars.
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Originally Posted by Baby Puke View Post
I should hip you all to the Dixie Flyer: https://www.facebook.com/DixieFlyerBicycles

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Dixie Flyer Bicycles

This is a US-designed Chinese built carbon bike that I believe comes in at about $2000 for frame and fork. The first production batch went out this summer and a bunch of them were at the recent masters nationals. This is an effort being put together by Bobby Walthour IV. I have only ridden one in the infield so I can't really comment, but those that have them are digging them. Nice lower-cost alternative to the Dolan, step up from the Planet X and multi branded Chinese frames.

Looks nice and I really dig the round seat tube

More info: Dixie Flyer Bicycles

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Yeah, the round seat tube was a key feature! I think sizes right now are 52, 54, 56 and 58 but there is also a 60cm on the drawing boards from what I hear.
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Yeah, the round seat tube was a key feature! I think sizes right now are 52, 54, 56 and 58 but there is also a 60cm on the drawing boards from what I hear.
Yeah, I'd need the 60cm
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Originally Posted by Baby Puke View Post
I should hip you all to the Dixie Flyer: https://www.facebook.com/DixieFlyerBicycles

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Dixie Flyer Bicycles

This is a US-designed Chinese built carbon bike that I believe comes in at about $2000 for frame and fork. The first production batch went out this summer and a bunch of them were at the recent masters nationals. This is an effort being put together by Bobby Walthour IV. I have only ridden one in the infield so I can't really comment, but those that have them are digging them. Nice lower-cost alternative to the Dolan, step up from the Planet X and multi branded Chinese frames.

Dude! I met Bobby at our track (Alpenrose) a few weeks ago. He was warming up for Masters Nats (and had his kids taking videos of him) and showed me his bike. He's comes from a sprint background and assured me it was more than stiff enough for sprinting. Quite a bit lighter than my Dolan.
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Bobby is super rad. I was privileged enough to ride team sprint with him at old guy nats just now, we're really sorry to lose him here at Hellyer! Bobby is a former national team rider and a total badass on the bike. The bike is indeed light, but if it can stand up to his punishment (I believe he's over 200#) it should be ok for just about anybody. He's told me the geometry is pretty much right on the Dolan's, so it should handle as expected.
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It's marketing, bro. Chill.
We're so lucky you're a moderator.
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Originally Posted by gl98115 View Post
We're so lucky you're a moderator.
Being a moderator doesn't mean what people may think. I'm just a regular user that's been around long enough that they put me to work cleaning up spam and bickering and whatnot. I'm not a "god".



If you don't agree with anything I do, press the little triangle icon and you can report my actions and one of the site Admins will review and deal with it. It goes over my head.

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damn i want that dixie in 60 not mad at the sloping top tube.
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Originally Posted by derek.fulmer View Post
I'm currently in the process of building one of these. I bought the Large, biggest size they make. 57cm seat tube, 58.4 top tube, fairly similar to my current road bike so it should fit pretty well. I'm amazed at how small a frame set looks without all the bits on it.

I'm considering some wheels made by Psimet for training and entry level racing with Velocity Deep V's, Dura-Ace cranks, and a Deda stem and Deda pista bars.
Those frames are pretty sweet, almost bought one myself last year.

As far as the wheels you plan to build I'd suggest using different rims, those Deep Vs are tanks.
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Originally Posted by CharlyAlfaRomeo View Post
Those frames are pretty sweet, almost bought one myself last year.

As far as the wheels you plan to build I'd suggest using different rims, those Deep Vs are tanks.
Any suggestions? Trying to stay under $500.
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Being a moderator doesn't mean what people may think. I'm just a regular user that's been around long enough that they put me to work cleaning up spam and bickering and whatnot. I'm not a "god".



If you don't agree with anything I do, press the little triangle icon and you can report my actions and one of the site Admins will review and deal with it. It goes over my head.
Chill, brah. Go our and ride you bike.
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Originally Posted by derek.fulmer View Post
Any suggestions? Trying to stay under $500.
I built up a set of training wheels with H Plus Son Archetypes that I'm quite happy with. They're 23 mm wide to give a nice tire shape and about 25 mm deep so should be on par aerodynamically with the Deep Vs but they're about 110g lighter (470g vs 580) and come in around $70.

Just saw Velocity has a new (to me anyway) rim called the Aileron that looks like it would make a nice everyday wheel but they list at $126.99 on Velocity's site.

I'm sure there's a few more options out there if you look around but the price on the Archetypes will be pretty hard to match.
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Hoy Bikes now has an upgraded Fiorenzuola .002 with Dura Ace cranks and hubs along with Nitto B123 sprint bars:

HOY Fiorenzuola .002 Track Bike - HOY Bikes | Developed by Sir Chris Hoy

They also till have the first model: HOY Fiorenzuola Track Bike - HOY Bikes | Developed by Sir Chris Hoy
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Originally Posted by derek.fulmer View Post
Any suggestions? Trying to stay under $500.
I know this is the complete bike thread but thought I'd comment. I actually just purchased the Deep Vs w/ Formula hubs. I heard they were heavier but wanted a durable wheelset for training and have seen people using them so I took the leap. I'm going to invest in a nicer wheelset for racing. Wheels will be here next week so I'll let you know how things go. Picked them up from Velo Mine. Happy to get my bike back together!
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Can't help but notice there are a whole bunch of enduros on cervelo frames at the world cup. I think I'd ride one as long as there's a size that fits me without reservations. Can't remember which thread that discussion was in, but this seems like a fine place to continue it.
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I know this is the complete bike thread but thought I'd comment. I actually just purchased the Deep Vs w/ Formula hubs. I heard they were heavier but wanted a durable wheelset for training and have seen people using them so I took the leap. I'm going to invest in a nicer wheelset for racing. Wheels will be here next week so I'll let you know how things go. Picked them up from Velo Mine. Happy to get my bike back together!
Those wheels are just fine. You'll use them for years to come! I had some Velocity Pro Elite (tubular version of the Deep V rim) for years until I recently traded them to a buddy. I still have some clincher Deep V rims that I need to re-lace up to some hubs one day.

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Can't help but notice there are a whole bunch of enduros on cervelo frames at the world cup. I think I'd ride one as long as there's a size that fits me without reservations. Can't remember which thread that discussion was in, but this seems like a fine place to continue it.
Which Cervelo? T3?

Why do you think you'd ride one? What do you like about it?
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Originally Posted by wens View Post
Can't help but notice there are a whole bunch of enduros on cervelo frames at the world cup. I think I'd ride one as long as there's a size that fits me without reservations. Can't remember which thread that discussion was in, but this seems like a fine place to continue it.
I have a Cervelo T4 and it is a nice bike - light, stiff and stable and supposed to be aero so I can see where they are popular. The aero seat post clamp works well locking things down on the seat rails and post to frame.
If you are looking at one the down sides are that the stability cuts both ways mostly at low speeds, the bottom bracket is a cm lower than a stock Tiemeyer so pedal clearance might be an issue at low speeds on a steep track and the slacker head angle makes for a longer wheel base and heavier steering. On the T4 the chainstays are thick so no room for a stages power meter and fat wheels fit but not much room for going out of alignment and the rear dropouts are what looks like carbon instead of steel so chain tugs are useful.
All up I like the frame and it is an upgrade from a Tiemeyer for me.
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What about this frame? Track-able or street-fixie? F550s ? Factory Five
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Any word on the All-City Thunderdome? I'm thinking of selling my Look frameset and replacing it with something a litte larger.
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What about this frame? Track-able or street-fixie? F550s ? Factory Five
Never heard of these guys before.

As an engineer I am intrigued by their quote "Instead of the industrial TIG weld we've applied a smoothweld at all the joints." What is a smoothweld?
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Never heard of these guys before.

As an engineer I am intrigued by their quote "Instead of the industrial TIG weld we've applied a smoothweld at all the joints." What is a smoothweld?
Chewing gum.
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