Training Status??? (IV)
Senior Member
didn't ride all weekend or yesterday. tried to do a 20min test today in a nice 60 degree basement, i never fail to disappoint, made it through 10mins at 280 and tailed off after that for another 5 choppy minutes (to be fair, I thought I was overextending and tried to do it after feeling good during the pretest clearing effort). going with 260 to establish my zones
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,449
Mentioned: 64 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 693 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
didn't ride all weekend or yesterday. tried to do a 20min test today in a nice 60 degree basement, i never fail to disappoint, made it through 10mins at 280 and tailed off after that for another 5 choppy minutes (to be fair, I thought I was overextending and tried to do it after feeling good during the pretest clearing effort). going with 260 to establish my zones
airflow is far more important than temperature in those scenarios.
how many fans? does the basement have any windows that can be opened?
i often find airflow to be a big reason (sometimes THE reason) people cannot hit outdoor #s on the trainer. worth investigating if you have not already done so.
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Posts: 40,865
Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Canyon Exceed, Specialized Transition, Ellsworth Roots, Ridley Excalibur
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2953 Post(s)
Liked 3,106 Times
in
1,417 Posts
Tried to do a 2x20' at tempo, still not feeling it, reminding myself it's October so chill out.
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ChapelBorro NC
Posts: 4,126
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 98 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I literally just ordered two 15" turbo air circulator fans to replace two stand up fans that have such ****ty air flow they make it feel like two people are just heavily breathing on me. Hopefully that will help as I really struggle to hit numbers indoors.
Senior Member
you mentioned temperature but not ventilation.
airflow is far more important than temperature in those scenarios.
how many fans? does the basement have any windows that can be opened?
i often find airflow to be a big reason (sometimes THE reason) people cannot hit outdoor #s on the trainer. worth investigating if you have not already done so.
airflow is far more important than temperature in those scenarios.
how many fans? does the basement have any windows that can be opened?
i often find airflow to be a big reason (sometimes THE reason) people cannot hit outdoor #s on the trainer. worth investigating if you have not already done so.
I also haven't ridden outdoors since july (with the exception of cross races now) so I have no clue what I can do outdoors at the moment, I might get a chance to do some road riding this weekend, maybe I'll have a chance to test a bit.
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Redlands, CA
Posts: 6,313
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 842 Post(s)
Liked 469 Times
in
250 Posts
Allergies hit me hard last night. I tape every night but my nose was so stuffed I had to take it it off. Felt awful and my commitment to commute to work until the DST almost ended on day 2. I'm better now, but the lingering effects of not getting a full nights sleep are there, and a day where I should be fresh I feel just the opposite.
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 842
Bikes: Trek 1.2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 25 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Maybe affected due to air quality? Not sure what happened with the fires in the past 24 hours, but air quality is way worse today than yesterday in the south bay. The sky is yellow again here.
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Posts: 40,865
Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Canyon Exceed, Specialized Transition, Ellsworth Roots, Ridley Excalibur
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2953 Post(s)
Liked 3,106 Times
in
1,417 Posts
It's not the air quality (although I occasionally get a whiff of campfire smell). The wind here has mostly been N->S so it makes sense that all the smoke is going right down the bay towards SJ.
No, I've been on antibiotics since Wednesday and it's caused some low grade nausea. Apparently due to wiping out the gut bacteria. I've been eating a lot of yogurt, as my doc recommended, and that's helped a bit. But it comes and goes.
No, I've been on antibiotics since Wednesday and it's caused some low grade nausea. Apparently due to wiping out the gut bacteria. I've been eating a lot of yogurt, as my doc recommended, and that's helped a bit. But it comes and goes.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Redwood City, CA
Posts: 10,978
Bikes: aggressive agreement is what I ride.
Mentioned: 109 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 967 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
4 Posts
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Posts: 40,865
Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Canyon Exceed, Specialized Transition, Ellsworth Roots, Ridley Excalibur
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2953 Post(s)
Liked 3,106 Times
in
1,417 Posts
Nonsense
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Vagabond
Posts: 13,918
Bikes: Affirmative
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 880 Post(s)
Liked 541 Times
in
237 Posts
Bloodwork today, so my excuse for failing any workout this week is I don't have enough RBCs to carry the oxygen I need or whatever.
Cat 2
6x10 at sweetspot. I watched a terrible Seth Rogen movie while I was on the trainer. I'm going back to breaking bad tomorrow...
**** that
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: CALI
Posts: 15,402
Mentioned: 151 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1099 Post(s)
Liked 104 Times
in
30 Posts
Hit up the gym for the first time since March or so.
Last year I didn't start until December.. this year I'm doing it right.
Speaking of doing it right, there was a guy there slamming some of the machines around and generally Doing It Wrong. At least he made me feel like I vaguely knew what I was doing.
Mostly trying to work on squat form. I'm using the "guided squat bar" thing, whatever it's called, hard to get the balance quite right. Whatever I was doing it made my legs pretty sore, immediately. I can push the leg press all night and not feel much, seems like the squats are way better! (I mean I know they're better, but still)
Last year I didn't start until December.. this year I'm doing it right.
Speaking of doing it right, there was a guy there slamming some of the machines around and generally Doing It Wrong. At least he made me feel like I vaguely knew what I was doing.
Mostly trying to work on squat form. I'm using the "guided squat bar" thing, whatever it's called, hard to get the balance quite right. Whatever I was doing it made my legs pretty sore, immediately. I can push the leg press all night and not feel much, seems like the squats are way better! (I mean I know they're better, but still)
MS, Registered Dietitian
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 241
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 40 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Hit up the gym for the first time since March or so.
Last year I didn't start until December.. this year I'm doing it right.
Speaking of doing it right, there was a guy there slamming some of the machines around and generally Doing It Wrong. At least he made me feel like I vaguely knew what I was doing.
Mostly trying to work on squat form. I'm using the "guided squat bar" thing, whatever it's called, hard to get the balance quite right. Whatever I was doing it made my legs pretty sore, immediately. I can push the leg press all night and not feel much, seems like the squats are way better! (I mean I know they're better, but still)
Last year I didn't start until December.. this year I'm doing it right.
Speaking of doing it right, there was a guy there slamming some of the machines around and generally Doing It Wrong. At least he made me feel like I vaguely knew what I was doing.
Mostly trying to work on squat form. I'm using the "guided squat bar" thing, whatever it's called, hard to get the balance quite right. Whatever I was doing it made my legs pretty sore, immediately. I can push the leg press all night and not feel much, seems like the squats are way better! (I mean I know they're better, but still)
A good place to start is goblet squats - easier to balance and get into a deep squat position.
Leg press puts a lot of stress on the lower back and knees because of the linear (non-arcing) motion. Also, it requires no balance. Smith machine squats (what I assume you are doing) either stress the knees or the lower back, depending on foot placement relative to bar - pick your poison.
Proper form with lower weight (until you get the form down) will be of much greater benefit than heavy leg press or another assisted squat machine.
Ninny
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: The Gunks
Posts: 5,295
Mentioned: 53 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 686 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
I've been doing single leg squats and yesterday I added in single leg deadlifts. Both exercises on one leg obviously, holding 15 lbs of hand weights. They are surprisingly difficult exercises. A 15 lb deadlift sounds like a joke, but do that on one leg for a while and you'll feel it everywhere.
MS, Registered Dietitian
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 241
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 40 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
I've been doing single leg squats and yesterday I added in single leg deadlifts. Both exercises on one leg obviously, holding 15 lbs of hand weights. They are surprisingly difficult exercises. A 15 lb deadlift sounds like a joke, but do that on one leg for a while and you'll feel it everywhere.
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Redlands, CA
Posts: 6,313
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 842 Post(s)
Liked 469 Times
in
250 Posts
I opened it up this morning to see what my legs can do and it was pretty disappointing. Probably about 30 watts less than I was expecting. Season start in 10 weeks, so I need to start working on intensity.
Of course that's after my epic ride into the desert this weekend, which may be folly. When your route goes through a 5 mile unpaved road in the middle of nowhere, and a region referred to as a wind corridor (which powers 200,000 homes) with no food or water stops for 40 miles its either going to epic or a Uber ride home.
Of course that's after my epic ride into the desert this weekend, which may be folly. When your route goes through a 5 mile unpaved road in the middle of nowhere, and a region referred to as a wind corridor (which powers 200,000 homes) with no food or water stops for 40 miles its either going to epic or a Uber ride home.
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,449
Mentioned: 64 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 693 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Ninny
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: The Gunks
Posts: 5,295
Mentioned: 53 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 686 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Not actually Tmonk
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 14,238
Bikes: road, track, mtb
Mentioned: 142 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2698 Post(s)
Liked 3,253 Times
in
1,709 Posts
3 hrs (55 mi w some climbing) at a good clip this morning, out before sunrise. Wasn't feeling it at first - stressed at work and feeling a little overwhelmed. By the end I was rompin' and a stompin' like I'm in my prime. Looking fwd to doing these dawn patrol rides at least once/week M-F while I get back in shape.
__________________
"Your beauty is an aeroplane;
so high, my heart cannot bear the strain." -A.C. Jobim, Triste
"Your beauty is an aeroplane;
so high, my heart cannot bear the strain." -A.C. Jobim, Triste
MS, Registered Dietitian
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 241
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 40 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
**** that
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: CALI
Posts: 15,402
Mentioned: 151 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1099 Post(s)
Liked 104 Times
in
30 Posts
I'd take the time to learn correct squat form with free weights, even though it will take a bit to get it down. It will pay big dividends long-term.
A good place to start is goblet squats - easier to balance and get into a deep squat position.
Leg press puts a lot of stress on the lower back and knees because of the linear (non-arcing) motion. Also, it requires no balance. Smith machine squats (what I assume you are doing) either stress the knees or the lower back, depending on foot placement relative to bar - pick your poison.
Proper form with lower weight (until you get the form down) will be of much greater benefit than heavy leg press or another assisted squat machine.
A good place to start is goblet squats - easier to balance and get into a deep squat position.
Leg press puts a lot of stress on the lower back and knees because of the linear (non-arcing) motion. Also, it requires no balance. Smith machine squats (what I assume you are doing) either stress the knees or the lower back, depending on foot placement relative to bar - pick your poison.
Proper form with lower weight (until you get the form down) will be of much greater benefit than heavy leg press or another assisted squat machine.
I'm sure free-standing squats are better than what I'm doing with the Smith machine squats. I do start with an empty bar and work on form, since you can still do it wrong with that machine. I just don't want to fall over or something if I'm doing a deep squat! (with actual weight on the bar)
I'll get there eventually.
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ChapelBorro NC
Posts: 4,126
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 98 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
**** that
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: CALI
Posts: 15,402
Mentioned: 151 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1099 Post(s)
Liked 104 Times
in
30 Posts
Just went down a smith machine rabbit-hole on YouTube; I learned people like to fight about them lol.
Then I found this, and it settles the discussion! (some NSFW language, depending where you work)
"I'm gonna ****ing squat on a smith machine if I ****ing want to!"
Then I found this, and it settles the discussion! (some NSFW language, depending where you work)
"I'm gonna ****ing squat on a smith machine if I ****ing want to!"
Ninny
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: The Gunks
Posts: 5,295
Mentioned: 53 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 686 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post