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Old 01-27-20, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mountaindave

It's on!! Stay tuned at Cinorider.
Hmmmm, not too far for me to go actually.

My 1972 Raleigh Super Course with SunTour derailleurs doesn't quite meet their definition of an acceptable bike, but it is 48 years old...
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Originally Posted by jackbombay
Hmmmm, not too far for me to go actually.

My 1972 Raleigh Super Course with SunTour derailleurs doesn't quite meet their definition of an acceptable bike, but it is 48 years old...
You'll be fine with that, SC's carry plenty of cred to out weigh any minor deficiency, the Suntour's are well know and respected as replacements by many.

Not in the cards for me but you could probably ride there, do the ride and be home for dinner the day after.
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Originally Posted by merziac
You'll be fine with that, SC's carry plenty of cred to out weigh any minor deficiency,
I have yet to find any deficiency with my Super Course minor or otherwise ;-)

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Not in the cards for me but you could probably ride there, do the ride and be home for dinner the day after.
It is a 6 hour drive for me, but in the intermountain west thats not considered much of a drive :-P
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Exactly on both counts.
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My 1972 Raleigh Super Course with SunTour derailleurs doesn't quite meet their definition of an acceptable bike, but it is 48 years old...
Seeing as how SunTour was superior to Campy in pretty much every way, I don’t see how anyone could find your Raleigh “unacceptable” now that it has been upgraded.

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Originally Posted by mountaindave
Seeing as how SunTour was superior to Campy in pretty much every way, I don’t see how anyone could find your Raleigh “unacceptable” now that it has been upgraded.

It originally had simplex mechs on it, but the suntour shift nice and crisp!

I need to look at my calendar a bit more to see how this can work in, fall is a busy time of year for me, but this looks like a great way to spend a couple days!
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A clear indicator that a bike boom bicycle was actually ridden was the number of part modifications that were made to the bike. Garage queens all have OEM equipment. Here's my Super Course receipt from 45 years ago:


Anybody that says you shouldn't modify a vintage bike probably wasn't riding BITD. If you swapped out your Campy shift levers for Simplex retrofriction, it was a clear sign that you were a smart rider.

Straightblock didn't give me any grief for asking Big Wheel Bike Shop in Fresno, California to modify my Super Course.
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I've actually been considering rebuilding my '72 SuperCourse for this year's Cino. ( I think it may be bad form to bring the same bike to Cino twice, so it can't be the Grandis or the Nishiki this year.) And maybe Eroica CA, too... can I still register for that? The SC is currently a fixie, but I've got all the original bits to throw back on it if I wanna...

Probably be more like the original bits except for a compact double

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For the purposes of "at least three of the following characteristics" do "steel frame" and "a frame made in 1987 or earlier" count as two different things?

I was planning to bring my 1975 Grand Jubilé, but I don't think the shifters have a friction mode and @gugie has brazed it to kingdom come. I was hoping to throw on some quill pedals with toe clips and try to blend in with the cool kids, but if it would save me merciless mocking I could bring something with a bit purer pedigree.

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That's a pretty bike - don't know how effective those fenders are, but they're sure workin' it

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For the purposes of "at least three of the following characteristics" do "steel frame" and "a frame made in 1987 or earlier" count as two different things?
Yes, they do. Throw on some toe clips and you'll be good to go.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
For the purposes of "at least three of the following characteristics" do "steel frame" and "a frame made in 1987 or earlier" count as two different things?

I was planning to bring my 1975 Grand Jubilé, but I don't think the shifters have a friction mode and @gugie has brazed it to kingdom come. I was hoping to throw on some quill pedals with toe clips and try to blend in with the cool kids, but if it would save me merciless mocking I could bring something with a bit purer pedigree.

Choke is correct, they are two different things.

Are those thumb shifters on Gevanelle brake levers? And I can’t quite make out the rear derailleur. I think “French” should be another Cino Point. You have papal dispensation to bring the Moto!
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
For the purposes of "at least three of the following characteristics" do "steel frame" and "a frame made in 1987 or earlier" count as two different things?

I was planning to bring my 1975 Grand Jubilé, but I don't think the shifters have a friction mode and @gugie has brazed it to kingdom come. I was hoping to throw on some quill pedals with toe clips and try to blend in with the cool kids, but if it would save me merciless mocking I could bring something with a bit purer pedigree.

Can you describe the drivetrain? Looks cool.
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It's a 35 hour drive according to Interweb map magic, but I am seriously looking at doing this - both because I want to, and because the journey would allow me to check off 4 states from my "haven't been there" list (5 if I drive a bit further to enter Idaho). I'm going to have to put this on my wife's map as well, since she has a talent for initiating projects that conflict with what I thought I might like to do.
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It's a 35 hour drive according to Interweb map magic, but I am seriously looking at doing this - both because I want to, and because the journey would allow me to check off 4 states from my "haven't been there" list (5 if I drive a bit further to enter Idaho). I'm going to have to put this on my wife's map as well, since she has a talent for initiating projects that conflict with what I thought I might like to do.
Hey, we used to be sorta neighbors (Lynchburg) but I’m a little further away in C-ville now. Have you ridden SOTR?

I’ve had urine that looks like that after a hard ride.
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Hey, we used to be sorta neighbors (Lynchburg) but I’m a little further away in C-ville now. Have you ridden SOTR?
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I just landed here last June, and we've had our hands full getting the new property into shape. I didn't get my first local bike ride in until Christmas day. I do plan on combining greenway and BRP rides as the weather improves to re-build my riding fitness. If you have other ride ideas, I'm up for giving it a shot.
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And maybe Eroica CA, too... can I still register for that?
Yes, and I believe that the earlybird pricing is still in effect for a couple more days, $20 off.
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Andy, when northbend looks you in the eye and says you have to do this, there isn’t a choice.
I can't feel my toes
by Matthew Pendergast, on Flickr

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Originally Posted by mountaindave
Are those thumb shifters on Gevanelle brake levers? And I can’t quite make out the rear derailleur.
Originally Posted by mechanicmatt
Can you describe the drivetrain? Looks cool.
Campy 10-speed bar end shifters mounted to Gevenalle levers. I like to think of them as non-aero shifters. Before anyone tries this at home, I should mention this won't work with the standard Gevenalle widgets. I was able to get my hands on a prototype set with special drilling to accommodate the larger diameter of these shifters. The rear derailleur is a long cage Chorus 10-speed. The crank and front derailleur are Racing T.



Oh, and I like the idea of French being a Cino Point. As quoted by Sheldon Brown, "Le beau est aussi utile que l'utile."
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Originally Posted by northbend
I can't feel my toes
by Matthew Pendergast, on Flickr

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Ah yes, goofy Matt. Yet another reason to go to Cino.
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Oh, and I like the idea of French being a Cino Point. As quoted by Sheldon Brown, "Le beau est aussi utile que l'utile."
"Les inutiles s'effondreront au milieu de la forêt."
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"Les inutiles s'effondreront au milieu de la forêt."
Noted. I'll carry the necessary tools to re-install the bottom bracket by the side of the road.
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Noted. I'll carry the necessary tools to re-install the bottom bracket by the side of the road.
Might not be necessary. If Choke knew to carry a vintage Silca pump in his sag pickup to help pump up a total of 4 flats in 20 minutes between me and Matt, I'm sure one of the guys on Honda Trail 90's will have a full VAR toolkit right when you need it. Bob Freeman did a full Campy NR rear derailleur rebuild on the side of the road with assistance from neutral support last year.
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Might not be necessary. If Choke knew to carry a vintage Silca pump in his sag pickup to help pump up a total of 4 flats in 20 minutes between me and Matt, I'm sure one of the guys on Honda Trail 90's will have a full VAR toolkit right when you need it. Bob Freeman did a full Campy NR rear derailleur rebuild on the side of the road with assistance from neutral support last year.
I had all the tools needed to tear down a bike....BB spanners, headset wrenches, etc. in the Jeep.
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I had all the tools needed to tear down a bike....BB spanners, headset wrenches, etc. in the Jeep.
Shimano splined bottom bracket tool? I'll be ashamed of you if your answer is "Yes." Peanut butter wrench? I have no doubt. Anything Shimano-specific? Inconceivable!

Yeah, my bike only looks Cino. The bottom bracket is a Velo Orange French threaded cartridge.
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