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Old 01-11-16, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Duke7777
'80s D Cattin, '76 Singer, '70s CNC (650B).
Wow.

Let's see more please.
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My 1968 Gitane Hosteler. It is currently in pieces awaiting cleanup and restoration.

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No fair -- my sport touring bike has canti brakes!
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Originally Posted by tarwheel
No fair -- my sport touring bike has canti brakes!
Is that your super nice Waterford?
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Originally Posted by tarwheel
No fair -- my sport touring bike has canti brakes!
We already added one in, . The purpose of the rule was to exclude touring bikes not sports touring bikes with cantis. So add it in. I was just trying to keep racing and touring bikes out because they have there own threads.
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According to the 1987 Miyata catalog my One Twelve mixte is "The top of our sport touring class. Chromoly triple-butted tubing and Mangalight racing fork...." Mine is the 22" mixte in Dark Platinum-Red.
SKS Longboard Fenders by velocivixen, on Flickr

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I tried putting shallow drop bars back on (modern) with NOS brake levers but really didn't like it. Ended up with VO Porteur bars with Paul Thumbies and used original shift levers for moving up to the handlebars. It had downtube shifters. I also found a 1987 Valley Runner Miyata with trashed frame, so m oved the triple chainring, wider range freewheel, front/rear "mountain" derailleurs (Shimano Light Action) over to this bike so now I have a wider range of gears. I don't ride it much. I'm probably more of a 19" size, and mine is the larger size. Oh well. Paint is nice.
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Old 01-11-16, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Duke7777
'80s D Cattin, '76 Singer, '70s CNC (650B).
Nice stuff, Duke! Any chance we get to see more of this one?

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Passed this frame onto a friend as I think the geometry was a little more full touring, but I used it as a sports tourer and would never have actually toured on it as it was not stout enough. Univega Specialissima. Loved the dia-compe GC center pulls.



I think this was a racing bike as I have the eyelets added to the fork but there were there on the back, barely squeezes a 28 with fenders and one brake is short reach while the other standard, both classic record. It's a Mairag made in Switzerland with 531 DB tubes, not the highest end or the prettiest but it does ride very well and makes a great training bike for inclement weather. Yes a lot of those components are the same, including the bars, stem, crank and 10 speed chorus drivetrain. I have some dura-ace 7700 hubs and mavic open pro CD rims waiting with DT DB spokes, just need to assemble them, the bike will look a lot more classic then.

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My 1982 Raleigh Supercourse that is made in Japan. I am constantly impressed by this bike, the build quality is very high and I find the ride to be very nimble. I should switch some of the components, particularly the brakes and crank which are pretty much crap compared to the frame.

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Since it's been approved, here are some shots of my Waterford RST-22, which is their sport touring model. I bought the frame and fork used, but the original owner told me it was a custom bike designed as an all-arounder capable for long rides, light touring and gravel grinding. It was built in 2002. This is the best riding bike I've ever owned, and I've had quite a few over the years. It has mounts for fenders and racks and clearance for at least 35 mm tires. I've used for commuting, light touring and riding on trails such as the New River, C&O Canal and local greenways. If I had to sell all of my bikes except one, this the the bike I would keep.

And yes, it does have canti brakes, but it is a genuine sport tourer and not designed for heavy loaded touring. I've got it set up for commuting right now and will post some more photos later.
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
Nice stuff, Duke! Any chance we get to see more of this one?

Here are a few more photos. These are all from the ebay listing. The bike is now apart and in the queue, which somehow doesn't seem to be getting any shorter. Cycles Cattin has been in business since 1957, started by the father and continued by his son Daniel since 1982.
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Originally Posted by Duke7777
Here are a few more photos. These are all from the ebay listing. The bike is now apart and in the queue, which somehow doesn't seem to be getting any shorter. Cycles Cattin has been in business since 1957, started by the father and continued by his son Daniel since 1982.
Thanks! Awesome bike. Love the brazing, love the details.

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Originally Posted by bikemig
Great question; go ahead and post it and explain why you think it belongs here. Waterfords are obviously beautiful bikes. The vast majority of bikes with cantilevers aren't really sports touring bikes; they are either touring bikes (and there is along thread for those) or cross bikes (there aren't a lot of vintage cross bikes out there). But it looks like your bike doesn't have the longish wheelbase of a true touring bike so go ahead and post, .
Great question, the original RS, Road Sport, was a jack of all trades bike. It had side pull brakes and not too much room for fat tires. Kind of what you stated originally. Then came the RSE, Road Sport Extended, series. According Richard Schwinn it was the same geometry as the RS but the stays were extended and cantilever mounts fitted. That allowed 37C tires or bigger to fit. Comparing the geometry to a Surly CC it was close to identical. The Surly could fit bigger tires though. The RSE-12 only made it 2 years. Then it morphed into the RSE-22 with Reynolds 853 tubes. The RSE-12 was the Last Waterford to use the full Reynolds 531 tubeset.

While the forums name is Classic and Vintage, Classic bikes seem to get little respect. Honestly the construction on my bike is identical to anything made in the seventies. It even uses the same tubes and is made in the same shop as the Paramounts.
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Very nice! To quote an esteemed fellow member: 'if I could only have one bike, this would do nicely'.

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My 1982 Raleigh Supercourse that is made in Japan. I am constantly impressed by this bike, the build quality is very high and I find the ride to be very nimble. I should switch some of the components, particularly the brakes and crank which are pretty much crap compared to the frame.

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Originally Posted by tarwheel
Since it's been approved, here are some shots of my Waterford RST-22, which is their sport touring model. I bought the frame and fork used, but the original owner told me it was a custom bike designed as an all-arounder capable for long rides, light touring and gravel grinding. It was built in 2002. This is the best riding bike I've ever owned, and I've had quite a few over the years. It has mounts for fenders and racks and clearance for at least 35 mm tires. I've used for commuting, light touring and riding on trails such as the New River, C&O Canal and local greenways. If I had to sell all of my bikes except one, this the the bike I would keep.

And yes, it does have canti brakes, but it is a genuine sport tourer and not designed for heavy loaded touring. I've got it set up for commuting right now and will post some more photos later.
Great looking bike.
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The quintessential Sport Tourer...

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'84 Sequoia.

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To me it's less about tire clearance and brake type/reach, more about what the frame is built to do primarily/best. Sport-Tour is more versatile and more compromised than Race or Tour. Fun but not as fast as a racing bike, tour-able but not as solid/sure-footed as a tourer. I think clearance for wider tires is a requirement, and since we're talking C&V-flavored, pre-rackless touring, so are fender/rack eyelets. No eyelets with wide tire clearance is Road-Sport to me---you could use p-clamps and Blackburn dropout rack adapters, but you'd be much better off with more securely-mounted fenders and racks when on tour.

Another Cherubim-built Echelon Odyssey:


'82 Columbine (eyelet-less fork likely isn't original):


'95 Waterford-Rivendell Road:


'05 Kirk Terraplane:


'11 Waterford ST-22:
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Wow--some really great bikes in here. Some builders I've never heard of.

Certainly never seen a shift lever on a seat tube before. Very cool.

My rather pedestrian contribution is my every day bike. An '84 LeTour. Built in Greenville, SC of butted 4130. It's a mix of original and new. Compass Cyprès 700x32 tires on CR-18s. Original SR stem, bars & seatpost. SRAM single crankset.

It's a great ride--fun to commute on and fun on long rides. I have fancier and racier bikes, but for me this one really can do it all.


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Originally Posted by non-fixie
Thanks! Awesome bike. Love the brazing, love the details.

+1!
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Here's my Cilo Pacer: commuter, pleasure cruiser, grocery getter, Eroica steed, errand runner, gravel grinder and just about do anything bike. 531 double-butted frame & forks. Originally came with a hodge-podge of Gran Sport and other parts which I've mostly upgraded to Nuovo Record with TA cranks. Clearance for up to 34mm tires (barely).



With 34mm tubulars:



Ready for transport:


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Originally Posted by gaucho777
Here's my Cilo Pacer: commuter, pleasure cruiser, grocery getter, Eroica steed, errand runner, gravel grinder and just about do anything bike. 531 double-butted frame & forks. Originally came with a hodge-podge of Gran Sport and other parts which I've mostly upgraded to Nuovo Record with TA cranks. Clearance for up to 34mm tires (barely).



With 34mm tubulars:
I had one of these (same color too) which I ended up giving to my brother. It was a heck of a nice rider and took pretty fat tires.
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So many beautiful bikes in this thread already... I have two that meet all the qualifications, my Sannow Eminenza and Soma Competition:





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Originally Posted by pcb
To me it's less about tire clearance and brake type/reach, more about what the frame is built to do primarily/best. Sport-Tour is more versatile and more compromised than Race or Tour. Fun but not as fast as a racing bike, tour-able but not as solid/sure-footed as a tourer. I think clearance for wider tires is a requirement, and since we're talking C&V-flavored, pre-rackless touring, so are fender/rack eyelets. No eyelets with wide tire clearance is Road-Sport to me---you could use p-clamps and Blackburn dropout rack adapters, but you'd be much better off with more securely-mounted fenders and racks when on tour.

Another Cherubim-built Echelon Odyssey:


'82 Columbine (eyelet-less fork likely isn't original):


'95 Waterford-Rivendell Road:


'05 Kirk Terraplane:


'11 Waterford ST-22:
Dream bikes for most of us.

While they are all droolworthy, that Kirk just nails it for me.

Hopefully, I can cut the check someday for a Terraplane.
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1973 Gran Sport

1980-ish Holdsworth Mistral, now gone but a great rider.
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