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Old 10-17-12, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mattm
"Is Armstrong the biggest ass in the history of Professional Cycling?"

No. I believe that would be his fans.
That is funny.
News across the wire this morning...Nike dumped Lance after 10 years. Lance has also stepped down from his cancer foundation...tho will stay on the board word is. So the glass house is crumbling. A remarkable collapse of an icon that so many believed in.

What is ironic is Nike standing by Tiger in spite of amoral behavior through his personal crisis. But it isn't clear that Tiger ever cheated in his sport...too bad their isn't more steroid scrutiny in golf. Tiger 'only' cheated on his wife and kids and the public he portrayed to as the quinessential family guy.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life
That is funny.
News across the wire this morning...Nike dumped Lance after 10 years. Lance has also stepped down from his cancer foundation...tho will stay on the board word is. So the glass house is crumbling. A remarkable collapse of an icon that so many believed in.

What is ironic is Nike standing by Tiger in spite of amoral behavior through his personal crisis. But it isn't clear that Tiger ever cheated in his sport...too bad their isn't more steroid scrutiny in golf. Tiger 'only' cheated on his wife and kids and the public he portrayed to as the quinessential family guy.
Tiger didn't try to ruin his wife after the breakup. Huge difference. Lance tried to destroy several people. In fact it seems in some ways Tiger tried to protect or at least minimize the damage to his ex.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life
That is funny.
News across the wire this morning...Nike dumped Lance after 10 years. Lance has also stepped down from his cancer foundation...tho will stay on the board word is. So the glass house is crumbling. A remarkable collapse of an icon that so many believed in.

What is ironic is Nike standing by Tiger in spite of amoral behavior through his personal crisis. But it isn't clear that Tiger ever cheated in his sport...too bad their isn't more steroid scrutiny in golf. Tiger 'only' cheated on his wife and kids and the public he portrayed to as the quinessential family guy.
They stuck with felon and animal abuser, Michael Vick, correct?

Lol.
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"Due to the seemingly insurmountable evidence that Lance Armstrong participated in doping and misled Nike for more than a decade, it is with great sadness that we have terminated our contract with him," the company said in a statement. "Nike does not condone the use of illegal performance enhancing drugs in any manner."
Yeah, right. I'm sure Nike doesn't sponsor any other athletes who were caught or admitted to doping.
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Yeah, right. I'm sure Nike doesn't sponsor any other athletes who were caught or admitted to doping.
Any middle aged basketballers here? If so you probably know how Nike started their rise to the top. If not, here is a good read for you.

https://books.google.com/books/about/...d=asZ_S1Ovm_MC
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Old 10-17-12, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by roadwarrior
They stuck with felon and animal abuser, Michael Vick, correct?

Lol.
Haahaha...oh yeah...forgot about him. Good point....the crisis de jour at the time.
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Originally Posted by Keith99
Tiger didn't try to ruin his wife after the breakup. Huge difference. Lance tried to destroy several people. In fact it seems in some ways Tiger tried to protect or at least minimize the damage to his ex.
My view and only that is the ONLY reason why Tiger 'protected' his ex was because of fear of a tell all book of course his kids.
I believe he cut a seriously large settlement with her to keep her quiet as well as a deal with his no.1 ho who he reputedly paid $10 million to..to shut her up.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life
My view and only that is the ONLY reason why Tiger 'protected' his ex was because of fear of a tell all book of course his kids.
I believe he cut a seriously large settlement with her to keep her quiet as well as a deal with his no.1 ho who he reputedly paid $10 million to..to shut her up.
Try north of half a billion. She was entitled to Half of the marital assets, around $500 million. Reportedly she got around 150 million as a sweetener for the non disclosure provisions.

Btw, my former firm represented her, all I know comes from nEws reports
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Originally Posted by roadwarrior
They stuck with felon and animal abuser, Michael Vick, correct?

Lol.
Vick and Tiger still have careers. I think that Armstrong is done had to be a big factor.

Market value decision not a moral one
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The exodus has begun. Along with Nike, Trek, Anheuser-Busch, RadioShack, and Giro all terminated their endorsement contracts with Armstrong today. Even Honey Stinger, which is partially owned by Armstrong, is taking his image off of their packaging. I'm actually surprised it took this long.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Vick and Tiger still have careers. I think that Armstrong is done had to be a big factor.

Market value decision not a moral one
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Vick and Tiger still have careers. I think that Armstrong is done had to be a big factor.

Market value decision not a moral one
Well, Vick did his time. Admitted fault and is back to playing. Tiger, to a certain degree, has done the same. Both had issues off the field. Lance's situation involves cheating in his sport and continuously denying and lying about it. Nike even had a commercial referencing the naysayers about LA. He has yet to admit he doped. Quite a different situation.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Vick and Tiger still have careers. I think that Armstrong is done had to be a big factor.

Market value decision not a moral one
So it was a business decision.....
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another doper's involvement with cycling...

Speaking of dispicable sports 'heros' with linkage to doping and now cycling, check out Bond's latest love.
Of course meat head Bonds is on a Venge as he needs the aero advantage since he is the size of a regrigerator due to years of roiding. Gotta love the $18K pricetag. Where are the fussy dice?
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Dang...Bonds looks downright skinny! No longer refrigerator size!
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He looks like that guy who used to play for the Pirates.
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Originally Posted by jeffpoulin
He looks like that guy who used to play for the Pirates.
Except for the oversized melon. Bone growth fueled by HGH doesn't shrink once you stop using, they say.

Someone wrote that the easiest way to ID ballplayers who used HGH was to get New Era to release data on their changing hat sizes though the years.

Of course, this could all be just urban legend.
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Except for the oversized melon. Bone growth fueled by HGH doesn't shrink once you stop using, they say.

Someone wrote that the easiest way to ID ballplayers who used HGH was to get New Era to release data on their changing hat sizes though the years.

Of course, this could all be just urban legend.
Interesting anecdote. But, when the claim is "bone growth", would that only affect the skull? Shouldn't it include other bones in the body as well?
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here's what he looked like when he was younger

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Originally Posted by tagaproject6
Interesting anecdote. But, when the claim is "bone growth", would that only affect the skull? Shouldn't it include other bones in the body as well?
Yes, it would affect every bone. It would be most evident where there is no muscle structure between the bone and skin, like the skull. Ripped forearm muscles would obscure an increase in the size of the ulna and radius, for example. The biceps would mask the humerus. And so on.

You'd probably notice an increase in hand size, too. And shoe size. Slight increases.
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Originally Posted by gsteinb
here's what he looked like when he was younger

Are you suggesting that pointy elbows is a side effect of hgh ? Maybe bodybuilders just eat a lot of spinach.
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Are you suggesting that pointy elbows is a side effect of hgh ? Maybe bodybuilders just eat a lot of spinach.
LMAO
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Are you suggesting that pointy elbows is a side effect of hgh ? Maybe bodybuilders just eat a lot of spinach.
First Lance, now Popeye is suspected of doping??
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