How many gears do I really need?
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How many gears do I really need?
I am just looking for a little exercise around the neighborhood. Mainly flat roads. I am looking at vintage style because of my back with the upright handle bars.
Thank you so much.
Dean
Thank you so much.
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I have sport bikes, touring bikes and good old English 3-speeds. I bought the 3-speed for city life and it works fine, but some are "overgeared" and I needed a larger rear cog to move the range of the three gears lower compared to stock, so all three would be easier to pedal than stock.
Any multispeed bike that you buy new will likely have all the gears you need in a suitable range for the use you will give it. Hills, road surface variations, winds and other things might dictate more gears or a wider range.
I personally like the look and character of 3-speed bikes (like old Raleighs) but newer hybrid-style bikes mimic the look and feel and generally feature many more gears and newer engineering. Tell us where you live and we might have specific recommendations.
Buying used is a risk if you do not know bikes because you might not know what to look for on a used machine, while buying new puts you at the mercy of a shop that might not have your best interests at heart. Ask around and talk to a couple of different shops and see what you think. If you buy new, "buy the shop, not the bike." There probably aren't many bad new bikes.
Good luck!
Obligatory Raleigh 3-speed photo. You are getting verrrry sleepy...
Any multispeed bike that you buy new will likely have all the gears you need in a suitable range for the use you will give it. Hills, road surface variations, winds and other things might dictate more gears or a wider range.
I personally like the look and character of 3-speed bikes (like old Raleighs) but newer hybrid-style bikes mimic the look and feel and generally feature many more gears and newer engineering. Tell us where you live and we might have specific recommendations.
Buying used is a risk if you do not know bikes because you might not know what to look for on a used machine, while buying new puts you at the mercy of a shop that might not have your best interests at heart. Ask around and talk to a couple of different shops and see what you think. If you buy new, "buy the shop, not the bike." There probably aren't many bad new bikes.
Good luck!
Obligatory Raleigh 3-speed photo. You are getting verrrry sleepy...
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The gear range you need is mainly determined by how hilly the terrain is and by your fitness level.
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Go for 22, you won't regret it. Slogging into the wind on a fixed gear bike isn't fun, especially up a slight incline.
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If you regularly find yourself having to put a lot of muscle into pedaling the bike then you probably need another gear. How many? Depends on you, the way you want to ride, the riding surface conditions you ride and lots of other stuff that may or may not matter to you or others.
You don't muscle a bike to ride. That just wears you out, gives you leg cramps and future knee problems. The more gears you have, the more you can find that ideal combination that lets you ride at the speed you want with a low level of muscle strain so you can ride all day long for 100 or even 200 miles instead of exhausting yourself in 30 minutes.
You don't muscle a bike to ride. That just wears you out, gives you leg cramps and future knee problems. The more gears you have, the more you can find that ideal combination that lets you ride at the speed you want with a low level of muscle strain so you can ride all day long for 100 or even 200 miles instead of exhausting yourself in 30 minutes.
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Note there are 2 distinct concepts, number of gears, and gear range. Racers and high performance cyclists like a good number of gears (currently 22 is the usual), and old putzers like me want a wide gear range.
The gear range you need is mainly determined by how hilly the terrain is and by your fitness level.
The gear range you need is mainly determined by how hilly the terrain is and by your fitness level.
It's much easier to not use gears you do have, than to use gears you don't have.
You might like a modern "Hybrid" style of bike.
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To be a bit of a smartas$, just one. Truthfully though it comes down to two things: how you intend to ride the bike, and the environment that you ride in. So this is a question without a single answer, or two put it another way there is literally no right or wrong answer. Based on the little amount of info provided, I would say a single speed would be a good choice, but I would actually recommend a 3speed IGH, like a sturmey-archer. Very near the same simplicity of a single speed but allowing the bike to be a little more versatile if you decide to broaden your riding. Your mention of vintage and upright handlebars, would lead me to recommend an older (read vintage) Raleigh sports maybe a Raleigh superbe or similar model. You could, for ease of maintenance and probably reduced cost, go for a modern equivalent, with a ‘vintage’ look. The ‘roadster sport’ from Linus bikes, comes to mind. https://linusbike.com/products/roadster-sport
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Keep in mind in the cycling world (as well as real life), there is the N+1 phenomena.
So, whatever you have N of, inevitably you will need N+1.
So, say you have 20 speeds (10 in rear x 2 in front), there is always that temptation to go to 22 speeds (11x2). Or, 12x2 (or 12x3???)
In your case, if everything is mostly flat, then you may not actually require much.
But, in general there are two main driving forces for more sprockets.
So, whatever you have N of, inevitably you will need N+1.
So, say you have 20 speeds (10 in rear x 2 in front), there is always that temptation to go to 22 speeds (11x2). Or, 12x2 (or 12x3???)
In your case, if everything is mostly flat, then you may not actually require much.
But, in general there are two main driving forces for more sprockets.
- Tight gearing and small steps is nice. Keep it in the best gear of the moment.
- Range of gearing. Best to keep power from fast shallow descents up to steep climbs.
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If just riding around the neighborhood a 2x7 or 2x8 hybrid would work fine, and can be found new for less than $500, such as a Trek FX. Of course, if the bug hits, then you will eventually want something else. Start basic, see what you like.
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If you like the 'Classic 3-Speed' like @thumpism ' s old Raleigh, there are lots of options. Just poking through Nashbar's 'City/Commuter' bikes shows us the Breezer Uptown/Downtown series, Fuji's Sagres, with 3- and 8-speed IGH, or 1x7 derailleur drivetrains. There's also Nashbar's own ($179) 3-Speed commuter.
Fenders, chainguards, and classic upright bars, with modern running gear, so none of the trials associated with owning and keeping up a truly vintage ride.
Fenders, chainguards, and classic upright bars, with modern running gear, so none of the trials associated with owning and keeping up a truly vintage ride.
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Consider a Townie D7 ?
comfortable to ride upright position,
gearing is a 1x7, works well on fllat terrain and some hills also.
my partner and I each have one as our beach bikes,
after our road bikes, they get the most distance.
comfortable to ride upright position,
gearing is a 1x7, works well on fllat terrain and some hills also.
my partner and I each have one as our beach bikes,
after our road bikes, they get the most distance.
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I would probably still be riding my Raleigh 3 speed had it not been stolen. I see them on craigslist, most are women's which would be ok w/ me and most are the smaller of the two most common sizes which would be ok if your short. I agree most 3 speeds need lower gears which is a cheap easy fix.
I do appreciate my modern 3x9 hybrid that replaced it, thats not too many gears but three are enough.
I do appreciate my modern 3x9 hybrid that replaced it, thats not too many gears but three are enough.
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A bike with a single ring in the front and a 7-8 speed cassette in the rear with a cog size range somethinng like 12-32 is all my wife and I need on our town cruisers.
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Doesn't this follow the n + 1 rule?
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2nd is your gear ratio consisting of of cog t : chainring t.
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