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Old 12-03-19, 02:48 PM
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Axle mounted 700C fenders for commuter?

I have been looking for over a year for replacement fenders for my commuter (they are cheap and rust quickly. I have to repaint them every 3 months). Now it's a must replace thing as I upgraded to wider tires and they sometimes rub on the fenders. Biggest problem is my bike does not have any eyelets and the existing fenders are axle mounted. I can find 26" ones, but no 700C. My tires are 700cx45, so I'd want fenders a little wider to accommodate future coat guards on the sides. Anyone know if these even exist? Should I just give up and try to find a place to get eyelets braised on? Thanks and sorry if this is the wrong subforum.
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You can use p-clamps on your frame which will act as brazed-on eyelets. Brazing is expensive because it requires repainting the frame.
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By "axle" I presume you mean for a QR wheel....in which case these fit the bill and are Prime on Amazon and allow you to mount any fender without frame-eyelets.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JMAIK7E/
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti View Post
By "axle" I presume you mean for a QR wheel....in which case these fit the bill and are Prime on Amazon and allow you to mount any fender without frame-eyelets.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JMAIK7E/
Nope, axle. As in I need a 15mm wrench to remove my wheel. All my bikes use some form of IGH.
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Originally Posted by harshbarj View Post
Nope, axle. As in I need a 15mm wrench to remove my wheel. All my bikes use some form of IGH.
You aren't likely to find a 700C fender that will mount to the axle. Better to just use a p-clamp to hold the fender on. You wouldn't even necessarily need a metal p-clamp. Nylon works just as well because the fender isn't carrying any weight.

Alternative, if you have a rack on the bike, you can mount the fender under the rack mount bolt, either under the rack leg or outside of it.
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While this isn't a problem I've had to encounter (my bike frames all have eyelets for fenders) it shouldn't be a particularly difficult problem to solve.

You can already get these overpriced aluminum adapters for QR wheels:


https://www.modernbike.com/axiom-axl...-fender-eyelet

You may be able to make those work by enlarging the hole, but I wouldn't bother. I would just make something similar out of stainless steel sheet or some other weatherproof metal (copper or brass would be fine).
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I will add, that if you have to paint them every three months, you aren't painting them properly. You need to prepare them properly, remove all the rust, prime them, then apply the paint. There is no reason the paint, properly applied, should fail so quickly.
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If you are looking for fenders, include 28" and 29" in your searches.

But, I'd go with @noglider and look for some P-Clamps to attach the fenders, and hopefully not have to mess with the fenders every time you change tires.

Your frame is metal, right?
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It took me a while to find them. For some reason, "plastic coated clamps" is the successful search phrase.
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Originally Posted by Gresp15C View Post
It took me a while to find them. For some reason, "plastic coated clamps" is the successful search phrase.
“P clamp” or “p clamp for bikes” on Google will find all kinds of clamps. Home Depot has all kinds of cheap ones (that Rivendell sells for $11 per pair). Ones with better coating like these at least look nicer. For fenders, you could even use just place plastic ones like these. QBP also carries ones from Dimension so that they can be ordered from your local bike shop.

I’m not a fan of them for rack clamps, however. Tubus clamps are stronger and easier to use.
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OP - Have you considered plastic fenders?

I have high quality ones that are durable, require no lower eyelets to mount (although this bike has them on the rear, should these ones ever give up the ghost) and they keep me dry and less weight than metal ones.

The back one looks goofy because I have modified it but still keeps me dry. Running 43mm tires. I know SKS Bluefels are much wider. These are from Portland Design Works. Got them in a trade or somehting, I don't remember....

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Originally Posted by phughes View Post
I will add, that if you have to paint them every three months, you aren't painting them properly. You need to prepare them properly, remove all the rust, prime them, then apply the paint. There is no reason the paint, properly applied, should fail so quickly.
Am I missing something here? Why not experiment with plastic fenders. They're rust proof and can be quite durable
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Originally Posted by davei1980 View Post
Am I missing something here? Why not experiment with plastic fenders. They're rust proof and can be quite durable
No, you aren't missing anything I simply pointed out that the reason the OP's fenders were rusting every three months was not the fault of the fenders, but instead improper painting, namely not priming the fenders first. Whether or not the OP replaces the fenders, it is a good thing to know for future projects. It is something I see here fairly often, people painting without priming first, and then having problems.
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Originally Posted by phughes View Post
No, you aren't missing anything I simply pointed out that the reason the OP's fenders were rusting every three months was not the fault of the fenders, but instead improper painting, namely not priming the fenders first. Whether or not the OP replaces the fenders, it is a good thing to know for future projects. It is something I see here fairly often, people painting without priming first, and then having problems.
For sure! I agree with you they shouldn't rust at all in the short term. That said, if they are rusting, it seems to me plastic fenders seems to be a very obvious work around ignored possibly by the OP. There may be very good reasons to stay with steel fenders too which I haven't considered....
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Originally Posted by davei1980 View Post
For sure! I agree with you they shouldn't rust at all in the short term. That said, if they are rusting, it seems to me plastic fenders seems to be a very obvious work around ignored possibly by the OP. There may be very good reasons to stay with steel fenders too which I haven't considered....
The biggest problem the OP has is the lack of eyelets for mounting fenders. Other posters have addressed that issue with links to adapters.
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Originally Posted by phughes View Post
The biggest problem the OP has is the lack of eyelets for mounting fenders. Other posters have addressed that issue with links to adapters.
I learned something today and may employ that idea if I ever switch frames/fenders or use that idea on the front where I don't have eyelets.

I would say the OP would do well to get some clamps for $1.83 and some plastic fenders.
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I learned something today and may employ that idea if I ever switch frames/fenders or use that idea on the front where I don't have eyelets.

I would say the OP would do well to get some clamps for $1.83 and some plastic fenders.
That's why I like this type of thread. I've been in bikes since the 70s and I still learn.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
“P clamp” or “p clamp for bikes” on Google will find all kinds of clamps. Home Depot has all kinds of cheap ones (that Rivendell sells for $11 per pair). Ones with better coating like these at least look nicer. For fenders, you could even use just place plastic ones like these. QBP also carries ones from Dimension so that they can be ordered from your local bike shop.

I’m not a fan of them for rack clamps, however. Tubus clamps are stronger and easier to use.
I am considering a front rack but I have a CF fork. Would you not recommend tubus clamps or generic P clamps? I have eyelets in the rear, just the front of my bike has very little weight on it under normal conditions, makes sense for balance to not put a rack on the rear. Plus this way, I can see my beer as I ride...

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Originally Posted by davei1980 View Post
I am considering a front rack but I have a CF fork. Would you not recommend tubus clamps or generic P clamps? I have eyelets in the rear, just the front of my bike has very little weight on it under normal conditions, makes sense for balance to not put a rack on the rear. Plus this way, I can see my beer as I ride...
The Tubus clamps are made for round tubes not the oval blades you find on forks. I’d be careful of clamping anything to a carbon fork anyway. You might look at some of the other solutions presented above.
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The Tubus clamps are made for round tubes not the oval blades you find on forks. I’d be careful of clamping anything to a carbon fork anyway. You might look at some of the other solutions presented above.
Got it!
I'll either swap out forks for a CrMo one with eyelets or just go with a rear rack.... I am fully embracing nerdy bike commuting. When I first started I was like "I don't need all those lights and fenders and bells are for kids' bikes!!" Now I am all like "I want that!"

Side note - just got brand new rims as a gift to myself and set up my new tires tubeless. Felt like riding a new bike today!
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I upgraded to wider tires and they sometimes rub on the fenders
you might be able to cut them in halves & remount them higher ...
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
you might be able to cut them in halves & remount them higher ...
I am right at the upper limit for clearing fenders fork and frame myself: 700x43c
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I am right at the upper limit for clearing fenders fork and frame myself: 700x43c
and those brake cables hmmm
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and those brake cables hmmm
what can you possibly have against my brake cables?
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Originally Posted by davei1980 View Post
what can you possibly have against my brake cables?
I was just trying to remember a bike I had where I cut the fenders & lifted them & wondering if the cables prevented me from lifting them. but looks like they weren't a problem. I did it in stages, lifting them once them again higher. also worked on another bike doing the same thing especially when I mounted up the studded tires

https://www.bikeforums.net/hybrid-bi...ide-tires.html

https://www.bikeforums.net/bicycle-m...it-bike-2.html

then I got a MTB & did it all again. that's why I mentioned the rare technique that some ppl resort to




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