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Old 04-03-20, 11:46 AM
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Good deal for $50?

This locally to me. Includes the box.
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Old 04-03-20, 11:57 AM
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IF you don't have the tools jump on it.
Looks like a Helicomatic removal tool?
https://www.ebay.com/i/174227881560?...yABEgJHfPD_BwE
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Old 04-03-20, 01:26 PM
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Not a spectacularly awesome great deal. But, yeah. I'd say that's a pretty good deal. A fair price.
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Old 04-03-20, 01:55 PM
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It depends on what sort of bikes you own. Modern ones wouldn't use any of those except the chain whip and tire levers. The spoke wrench may be one of the three common sizes that you need.

- Disc brakes don't use the offset wrench
- That looks like a freewheel tool which won't fit cassette lock rings
- Two piece cranks don't need an extractor
- Threadless headsets don't use a 32mm wrench
- Cartridge bottom brackets don't need a lock ring spanner
- That's not a high quality chain tool and modern narrow chains may not fit
- Cartridge bearing hubs no longer require adjustment with cone wrenches. Many use hex keys for disassembly not cone wrenches.
- Cartridge bottom brackets have no adjustable cup requiring a pin spinner.

OTOH, with a large vintage fleet you need all those things.

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Old 04-03-20, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Drew Eckhardt View Post
It depends on what sort of bikes you own. Modern ones wouldn't use any of those except the chain whip and tire levers. The spoke wrench may be one of the three common sizes that you need.

- Disc brakes don't use the offset wrench
- That looks like a freewheel tool which won't fit cassette lock rings
- Two piece cranks don't need an extractor
- Threadless headsets don't use a 32mm wrench
- Cartridge bottom brackets don't need a lock ring spanner
- That's not a high quality chain tool and modern narrow chains may not fit
- Cartridge bearing hubs no longer require adjustment with cone wrenches. Many use hex keys for disassembly not cone wrenches.
- Cartridge bottom brackets have no adjustable cup requiring a pin spinner.

OTOH, with a large vintage fleet you need all those things.
I have 5 vintage 1980s Japanese bikes
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Old 04-03-20, 02:19 PM
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It's a good deal, but I would offer $40. I also can't tell in the photo but it appears that the tool box drawers are bent downward on the right side especially the top drawer, if that's the case I would offer $30 and explain the tool box is in poor shape.
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Old 04-03-20, 02:21 PM
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That Park crank puller may be the very old style that had threads for both 22mm (most common) and 23mm (for old TA cranks). If you buy the tools and can't imagine owning a TA crank, or wanting to remove one, you could probably get a decent price for that tool alone. Just don't use it on the old Stronglight cranks as it will sometimes ruin them -- Stronglights are 23.35 mm, for some reason that even God doesn't know.
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Originally Posted by robertj298 View Post
I have 5 vintage 1980s Japanese bikes
Depending on what tools you're missing, that could be really useful.
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Old 04-03-20, 02:41 PM
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I have that same box I bought in the 1980s.

That box alone retails for $60 new. https://www.lowes.com/pd/CRAFTSMAN-P...Box/1000602661
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Originally Posted by Drew Eckhardt View Post
Depending on what tools you're missing, that could be really useful.
I have no tools
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Originally Posted by robertj298 View Post
I have no tools
Get it.
Cone wrenches appear to be about $8.50 new. (online)
Crank puller would put you over $50 easily.
Go to the PARK tools website and download the catalog to identify part numbers to research price.
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You'll still need to buy a 17mm cone wrench for shimano rear locknuts but yeah, buy it.
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Old 04-03-20, 05:58 PM
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Run! Don't walk to pick this up. It is the cost of two of those tools new. You will be on yer way to being a bike mechanic. And remember no one buys a Snap-On tool kit to start. Smiles, MH
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Originally Posted by desconhecido View Post
That Park crank puller may be the very old style that had threads for both 22mm (most common) and 23mm (for old TA cranks). If you buy the tools and can't imagine owning a TA crank, or wanting to remove one, you could probably get a decent price for that tool alone. Just don't use it on the old Stronglight cranks as it will sometimes ruin them -- Stronglights are 23.35 mm, for some reason that even God doesn't know.
I noticed this as well. It sure does look like a Park CCP-1. I'd wager you could get at least $25 for that tool alone.
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I noticed this as well. It sure does look like a Park CCP-1. I'd wager you could get at least $25 for that tool alone.
I know that some people disparage the Park tools of that design as the lever arm is sort of short. But, it's always worked for me, over the years, and it does work on TA cranks.
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Originally Posted by desconhecido View Post
I know that some people disparage the Park tools of that design as the lever arm is sort of short. But, it's always worked for me, over the years, and it does work on TA cranks.
Agreed as short as the lever arm is I've yet to run into the crank it couldn't remove and its nice it slips past a lot of pedals. I bought a new park crank puller that used a wrench and the threads were so awful on it that even cleaning them with a cloth and lubing them they still stripped out a couple cranks. Tossed it in the garbage and went back to the old standby there. Hard to be something that just works.

If you plan to use the tools and either know or plan to learn how to use them then its a very good deal, not the most amazing bargain but you're making off with a great savings over new. If they'll sit and collect dust its a waste of 50.00
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Agreed as short as the lever arm is I've yet to run into the crank it couldn't remove and its nice it slips past a lot of pedals. I bought a new park crank puller that used a wrench and the threads were so awful on it that even cleaning them with a cloth and lubing them they still stripped out a couple cranks. Tossed it in the garbage and went back to the old standby there. Hard to be something that just works.

If you plan to use the tools and either know or plan to learn how to use them then its a very good deal, not the most amazing bargain but you're making off with a great savings over new. If they'll sit and collect dust its a waste of 50.00
If you have, as does the thread originator, five bikes from the 80s, you need a crank puller, some cone wrenches, a lock ring spanner, or two. And, that Maillard tool can be used to open beer bottles. What's not to like?
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The tools aren't the most exciting ever, but with the Craftsman it looks like a decent deal if there's stuff you need in there.
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Everything has a value and a price. They aren't the same thing.

Take just the empty tool box for example. If you need a tool box, and that one is in good enough shape to meet your needs. Then the empty tool box alone has value. If you don't need a tool box, then it's not a good deal regardless how cheaply you are able to buy it. You'd actually be better off if you didn't own it because it's just taking up space.

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Pretty easy decision; good deal if you need and can use the box and/or some of the tools. Probably wouldn't be worthwhile for most on this thread because it would contain items not needed or duplicates.
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I would buy it for the price certainly you can try and go lower but a lot of cool vintage Park tools plus an old Helicomatic tool plus a box. Not a terrible deal.
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