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1902 Rambler Wood Rim Project

Old 06-29-16, 08:59 PM
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1902 Rambler Wood Rim Project

Pictures and more details will be posted soon after I'm not posting from my phone.

Looking for the 28 inch tubulars, I believe they usually run around $250ea, can someone
Direct me to where I could purchase these guys?

I believe it's one of the old six day race bikes, I'll post pictures and details soon
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Old 06-29-16, 09:32 PM
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Old 06-30-16, 01:20 PM
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Im looking for either replicas and or NOS

I believe the are old tubulars
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Old 06-30-16, 02:53 PM
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Weren't the 6-day races a bit later-like in the 'teens on to the '30's? BTW, love the fancy lugs, but, man, they don't look like they really add much strength.....
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Old 06-30-16, 03:08 PM
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The Rambler Headbadge Patents 1902 but I highly doubt this was one of the first in production, something this old is out of my realm.
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Interesting. Not up on this old stuff either but a little of the Jeffery Company. Started in Chicago with bikes and then onto auto's, factory moved to Kenosha, Wi. Believe Jeffery Comp. soon sold the bikes and Rambler (for bicycles) name off.

Friend has an '03 or '04 Rambler auto, mostly original. Brother had it all apart and re-built. Cutest little car and fun to drive.

Unfortunately the wheels to his auto are not original but are almost like bike sized in 28", wire spoked, steel clincher rim. Incorrect to original though they look period enough, especially with all white tires.
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Old 07-08-16, 03:17 PM
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Can't find these tires anywhere, does anyone have any direction?

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Old 07-08-16, 05:11 PM
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Check out this place. Antique Bicycles Pre-1933 | The Classic and Antique Bicycle Exchange
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There was someone making nonrideable display replicas. I don't know of anyone making tires in that size any more. The market is too small. But I'm not an antique bike enthusiast. They should know.

People used to make their own tires at home, I remember watching it being done. You could too.
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Have you tried Coker?
Ya, first connected with there live help then after tried to try my luck over the phone.

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There is an Amish guy making wood rims. he is also making a rim that is wood over a regular 700c aluminum rim so from the outside it looks right but your choice of tire becomes much greater. Something to consider if you plan to ride the bike at all. Another guy on the cabe is grain painting 700c/29er velocity rims to use for a rider. that way you keep the antique wheels for show.
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Wood rims - Products - Cerchio Ghisallo
Wood rims - CB Italia ? Cerchi in Legno Vintage per Biciclette, Bicycles Wooden Rims, Holzfelgen für Fahrräder, Jantes en Bois pour Bicyclette

For custom tubulars, FMB will make them. François Marie Boyaux
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Those are all nice wheels but none will look right on a TOC bike.
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Originally Posted by redcaymatt
Those are all nice wheels but none will look right on a TOC bike.
Why is that?
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Why is that?

These are all more narrow & the wider ones have a different profile than what you'd find on a TOC bike. Don't get me wrong I love them and am glad they're available but they'd look funny on a turn of the century bike like this. They're more for 30's-60's bikes.

for the OP The Amish man is maned Noah Stutzman. being Amish he has no phone. If you google him theres contact info (a neighbor I believe) that you can deal with.
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At the very bottom of the page » FITTING MODERN TYRES TO VINTAGE BICYCLES The Online Bicycle Museum reads a text

Any idea what tire they might be referring to?

"the original type of tubeless tyre is no longer made. The only options are to use a replacement solid tyre currently sold in USA (costing around US $250 each + carriage) or remove the wooden wheels and replace them with metal wheels. In America, most vintage enthusiasts who want to ride their pre-1932 wooden wheeled bicycles replace their old wooden wheels with modern 36-hole wooden rims made in Italy."
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Originally Posted by Salamandrine

People used to make their own tires at home, I remember watching it being done. You could too.



Now, THIS I've got to see!
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Originally Posted by Bad Lag
Now, THIS I've got to see!
Making a tubular tire by Jobst Brandt

How Tubular are Made and Maintained - Wheel Fanatyk

It was Spence Wolfe and his wife that I saw making tubulars. I used to roll into their shop on my motobecane when I was a kid and bother them with questions like "what are you doing?", "how much is a custom bike?". They were remarkably good humored and nice.
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I got curious about this, thinking about the old wooden rim bikes that used to be hanging in some older bike shops.

Apparently the 28" tubular size was the same as today's tubular rims size, though the profile may have been different. If any antique bike nuts want to chime in here, info is welcome!

Anyhow, it seems some people are using regular cyclocross tubular tires (700x34) on old wood rims with success.
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Try A. Dugast and see if they'll make to your spec.

Handmade beauties.

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this is copy of a velognome post in similar thread https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ht-decade.html ...it may help

If the rims are original, the tire size would most likely be a 28" tubeless tire with a chain pattern tread. Lots of "non pneumatic" on sale on ebay for static displays. You can purchase actual reproductions from Harper Machine 1329 Dunbar Ave, Dunbar WV the # is 304-768-1147. If this is correct, the rim would measure 25".

Paint on the wood rim was typical of the period. The rim was usually painted to match the frame, the silver or aluminum paint was probably done in the 20's to update the look of the bike to match the then popular steel clad wood rim.
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Originally Posted by Salamandrine
I got curious about this, thinking about the old wooden rim bikes that used to be hanging in some older bike shops.

Apparently the 28" tubular size was the same as today's tubular rims size, though the profile may have been different. If any antique bike nuts want to chime in here, info is welcome!

Anyhow, it seems some people are using regular cyclocross tubular tires (700x34) on old wood rims with success.
I wondered when I first saw this title if it was just the case of old nomenclature and not an actual size difference: many European makers still call the standard 700C tubular a 28" tire...Continental is one who does/did.

Hey @rrotello, glad to see you are still with us cause I have a completely un-related question to ask you...I'll use the PM.
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