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Old 11-27-12, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ddeadserious
I feel like they have a stigma attached to them based solely on their price rather than their actual quality. It's just like any quality item that is sold for a below-average price, people then associate it with a "bang for your buck" thing rather than just simply being good on it's own. If the Novatec hubs were twice the price for the exact same thing, they'd probably be considered as "high end/high quality" hubs.
don't get me wrong, they are very good hubs and I own a pair but people pay top dollar for looks and percieved quality wich the novatec's lack imo. They are very generic looking bordering ugly, just compare them visually with a campagnolo pista, dura ace, phil wood...
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"Nope" on DT Swiss and Chris King making track hubs.
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Originally Posted by chriskmurray
Can you blame him? I have built many wheels but we all start somewhere and it is highly unlikely he will mess it up so bad without realizing it that his safety would be in jeopardy.

True, a carbon wheel is not the ideal place to start because if you really mess something up it might cost a little more to fix but if he takes his time, uses a tension gauge chances are he will be just fine. It is never a bad call to have a friend who knows how to do it double check you but really, how many wheels have you seen catastrophically fail because of poor build? If he strings tennis racquets regularly, chances are he is good with tedious tasks that require attention to detail which is pretty similar to building a wheel.

In the end though, other than learning the lacing pattern and the basic theory behind it, building bicycle wheels is really not as difficult of a task as people think. It takes some skill to really get them "perfect" but safe, or close enough to still feel good about a first wheel build is really not that hard to achieve.
I appreciate your post. There's a first time for everything. I figure if I'm really that unsure, I can always have the bike shop look it over.
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these maybe?
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Originally Posted by xavier853
So you are saying the deep Chinese carbon road wheelset is actually decent for the price? I was simply looking at them to have something lighter and to be replaced by an eventual upgrade on my new road bike build.
Our shop has built up 4 sets I believe of the China carbon rims and they all turned out really nice. The mountain rims looked nearly identical to the Roval (Specialized brand) carbon wheels. We could have been lucky but one of our riders using them is about to turn pro and rides lots of hills. He has even climbed Pikes Peak on them and descending that 14,000ft mountain road did not hurt them at all.

I think you should give it a shot. You will know if they are safe, it will be obvious if the lacing pattern is wrong and when checking them, if they are true vertically/laterally, dished, and tension is where it should be your wheels are good. If you still are second guessing yourself have your LBS double check them. If you are a regular there they may not even charge you to check them out, especially if nothing needs changed.
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Old 11-27-12, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dookie
Those seem a bit pricey, but I don't know anything about them. I think I can get Phil woods for that price.
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Profile > Phil Wood
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
Profile > Phil Wood
well there you go.

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Really liked the look of the profiles. I did read somewhere that the spacing (chainline) for the rear cog is slightly "off" due to being measured in imperial units, instead of the standard metric. I may be wrong here, this information was found on the interwebz. Anyone got first-hand experience?
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Old 11-27-12, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by NcA13
...instead of the standard metric...
ouch. my brain.
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just saw someone bought some suzue promax hubs in the what did you just buy thread. how do those compare to other higher end hubs? seems like they go for less than 100 per hub, which is a good price point for me.
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I have them on my Bare Knuckle and love everything about them.
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I have them on my Bare Knuckle and love everything about them.
which version do you have?
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Old 12-02-12, 10:49 AM
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The sealed bearing version.
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Old 12-02-12, 03:08 PM
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American Classic does a pretty good job. +1 for Profile hubs as well.
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Originally Posted by tgscordv6
Someone on the roadie subforum almost fell off the mountain because his Chinese carbon clinchers overheated.
Anyone got a link to this thread?

Fwiw, I also was pretty much sold on getting some chinacarb wheels but was eventually convinced that you could get lighter weight and better quality alloy wheelsets for less money. Sure there's less bling factor (main reason why I wanted them) but your dollar goes much further on an alloy wheelset.

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Old 12-02-12, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by EpicSchwinn
Anyone got a link to this thread?
It can happen on any carbon clincher. Carbon isn't good at dispersing heat. Extreme heat causes the rim bead to delaminate, letting go of the tire.

Proper brake pads help. Or you can go tubular.
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Old 12-02-12, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by EpicSchwinn
Fwiw, I also was pretty much sold on getting some chinacarb wheels but was eventually convinced that you could get lighter weight and better quality alloy wheelsets for less money. Sure there's less bling factor (main reason why I wanted them) but your dollar goes much further on an alloy wheelset.
Cheap carbon wheels don't say "bling" to me, they say "cheap".
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Old 12-02-12, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Nagrom_
It can happen on any carbon clincher. Carbon isn't good at dispersing heat. Extreme heat causes the rim bead to delaminate, letting go of the tire.

Proper brake pads help. Or you can go tubular.
all true BUT there are some carbon rims that have a basalt braking surface wich disperses heat more efficiently. Farsports china carbon rims are very good and have the basalt coating. here's a topic about the rim (there are others): https://weightweenies.starbike.com/fo...p?f=3&t=108774
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I've heard a lot of good things about FarSports wheelsets.
Keep in mind all carbon rims fail at a certain temperature. Proper brakepads produce less heat, and better carbon dissipates more heat.

Wouldn't want to go climbing on china carbon is my point.
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Originally Posted by Nagrom_
Wouldn't want to go descending on china carbon is my point.
fify

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Old 12-02-12, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dookie
fify
It was implied.

Reverse suicide hill bombing?
Climb to the top, drive down.
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Old 12-03-12, 08:39 PM
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I like Paul components.

Here's a review.




I've always been able to get their hubs for sweet prices used.

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Old 12-17-14, 10:14 AM
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Those are my "Holey" hubs with a pair of vintage French made "Prior' hubs.

Originally Posted by mconlonx
High end hubs, you say?

Curtis Odom hubs. Ka-bling!


Or something from:
Paul Components
White Industries
Chris King
Phil Wood
DT Swiss <-- do they even make a track hub...?

And I hear a favored vendor hereabouts has Chub Hub on sale...
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Big fan of the Suzue Pro Max hubs. They look and work great and are cheap compared to other hubs in this range. Once you step up from formula/novatech and all the other re-branded versions of those two, you are looking at something like Phils or similar and the Suzue Pro Max make a lot of sense.

Had a set of Archetypes built with them and no complaints.
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