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how do i build a centaur kit

Old 12-03-05, 08:12 AM
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how do i build a centaur kit

If i want to build a kit-i need some serious help. campy centaur. Any input would be good
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to add on to the thread, like whats the difference between a long or short derailluer? just the beginning of my troubles.........
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you don't build it, you buy it and install the components on your frame.
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long-cage is for wide gearing (triple crank). short cage is for standard gearing (double crank)
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Buy the groupset,and you won't have to worry about the compatibility thing.
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whats the difference between an italian or engilish bottom bracket?
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your frame' BB threading will be Italian or English. They have different thread pitches. They are not interchangeable. If you have a frame made in Italy, it is most likely Italian threading. Most new frames are English threaded.
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Originally Posted by galen_52657
your frame' BB threading will be Italian or English. They have different thread pitches. They are not interchangeable. If you have a frame made in Italy, it is most likely Italian threading. Most new frames are English threaded.

You need to measure though, my made in italy bianchi uses an english thread bb, not italian.
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Originally Posted by galen_52657
long-cage is for wide gearing (triple crank). short cage is for standard gearing (double crank)
Actually, long cage front derailleur is for triple, MEDIUM cage is for standard 53-39 and short is for Compact crank set-up.

There are also 3 sizes in rear derailleur as well. They will depend on your front sprocket selection mixed with the size of gears (cog set) you are going to run on the back. Same situation... Long, Med and Short.

Why don't you tell us what kinda bike you are trying to build?
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Old 12-03-05, 09:48 AM
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Go to the Campy website and download the Centaur 'specs'. If I recall right you'll see that the medium cage rear deraileur is for the 13-29 cassette. Front derailleur has a choice of braze on or clamp on. There is even a color choice of bright or gray and other choices to be made.

Instead of our collective memory I'd say go to the source.

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I'd say you should really take the frame to a shop and have them do the upgrade..
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Originally Posted by roadracer13
Actually, long cage front derailleur is for triple, MEDIUM cage is for standard 53-39 and short is for Compact crank set-up.

There are also 3 sizes in rear derailleur as well. They will depend on your front sprocket selection mixed with the size of gears (cog set) you are going to run on the back. Same situation... Long, Med and Short.

Why don't you tell us what kinda bike you are trying to build?
Um well, if uve noticed my previous post on how i won a colnago c40 frame. I wanna get a good centaur kit on this for a good price. Handlebars and stem are next, then rims. last would be seatpost nd seat, idk about the order but i do wanna get the campy kit asap. Ive nvr built a bike before, and the knowledge i gain from this will certainly expand my knowledge of the bike, its parts and how it all works.
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Can you please speak ENGLISH?

I realize this is the internet, and you are anonymous, but please, make it readable for the rest of us. We will subconsciously (or consciously) treat your posts more seriously, and you will get better information in return for putting a wee little bit more effort into your posts. It won't hurt you, but it will certainly help you.

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Originally Posted by scarpi41
Um well, if uve noticed my previous post on how i won a colnago c40 frame. I wanna get a good centaur kit on this for a good price. Handlebars and stem are next, then rims. last would be seatpost nd seat, idk about the order but i do wanna get the campy kit asap. Ive nvr built a bike before, and the knowledge i gain from this will certainly expand my knowledge of the bike, its parts and how it all works.

Or totaly screw the campy kit up and need to be replaced. Seriously, take apart a cheap bike first and put it back together several times before trying this. Or at least go to a shop and have them double check every thing
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Originally Posted by Elvish Legion
Or totaly screw the campy kit up and need to be replaced. Seriously, take apart a cheap bike first and put it back together several times before trying this. Or at least go to a shop and have them double check every thing
Im just ordering, not installing.
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Well, instead of just being negative, I will actually give you some information that might just help.
Try here:
https://eurobikeparts.com/

They seem to have a full selection of groupsets and reasonable pricing.
They also have free shipping on orders over $200.
Good luck.
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https://classifieds.consumerreview.co...uery=retrieval

a possibility?
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
Can you please speak ENGLISH?

I realize this is the internet, and you are anonymous, but please, make it readable for the rest of us. We will subconsciously (or consciously) treat your posts more seriously, and you will get better information in return for putting a wee little bit more effort into your posts. It won't hurt you, but it will certainly help you.

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Think about it.

Second the above, also note the mods may tap you on the shoulder for this kind of typing as it is not accepted per the member rules. Capitalization is a good thing to when you pick about English.

As to your post with a c40 frame I would think you are looking to build the bike as a double in that case buy a Centaur group with the short cage Rear Derailleur (RD) and a double Front Derailleur. The rest of the parts will work with these two.

As a note I run a Campy Chorus Groupo with the short RD and the 13-29, properly adjusted this works great and still allows me to run an 11-23 for races and have crisp quick shifts.
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Originally Posted by CPcyclist
As a note I run a Campy Chorus Groupo with the short RD and the 13-29, properly adjusted this works great and still allows me to run an 11-23 for races and have crisp quick shifts.
I thought you needed the medium rd for an 11-23, does it work ok with a short one as well?
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Don't get Centaur.
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Centaur is a good kit, but maybe chorus is more up your alley, especially on a colnago.

Look at your BB threads, italian threaded BBs have the threads both going the same way...I made this mistake and bought a chorus BB that was in italian....still sitting here in my apt.

And, a groupset is not hard to install, you just need the right tools, and either a strong arm, or a long torque wrench.

You WILL need the following tools if you choose to install it yourself:

Torque wrench : carftsman makes a very affordable needle type one, but I reccomend finding a dual-direction micrometer sttyle wrench...they are far more accurate.

Bottom bracket/cassette tool: this tool is maded to fit in a wrench, but if you find the same size nut, you can fit it into a socket and use the torque wrench for precise torqueing.

Chain tool: get anything that will work with 10sp....if you buy cheap, get two..I have never had a cheap tool last more than a few breaks.

cable cutters: get a good bike cable specific cutter. Park tool makes a pro gradde cutter thats super nice, and also has some spots that are good for crimping cable ends on.

A small triangle file: good for fixing cable housing after cuts.

Allen wrench set: metric, from 2.5mm all the way to 8, that way you are covered for near anything

philips screwdriver

sharp knife: I prefer the "snap-blade" disposable box-cutters...these are great when working on bar wrap

electrical tape: for bar wrap, get whatever matches your tape

I've done a campy conversion, and most of the problems that arise are either from trying to keep old parts, or being forgetful. PM me if you have any questions.
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