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Old 03-29-21, 12:22 PM
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X-One Allround or G-One Speed?

I have a set of Schwalbe X-One Allrounds (33mm) and a set of G-One Speeds (38mm). Anyone know which type is faster on dry gravel and pavement? I checked BicycleRollingResistance.com, but they don’t seem to have numbers for either specific model. Is there another source that has rolling resistance numbers?

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Anyone know which type is faster on dry gravel and pavement?
I've read some German magazines, and oddly the all-round is slightly faster, although the difference is small enough to be negligible. I have both, and can't say the speed is really faster. You could go either way - their performance is similar (other than the obvious off road wet terrain issues with the speed).
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Originally Posted by FML123
I have a set of Schwalbe X-One Allrounds (33mm) and a set of G-One Speeds (38mm). Anyone know which type is faster on dry gravel and pavement? I checked BicycleRollingResistance.com, but they don’t seem to have numbers for either specific model. Is there another source that has rolling resistance numbers?

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m $0.02 go with the wider tire for comfort. Speed difference is probably negligible, in fact the wider tire may be faster on gravel.
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Thanks, Chas and Toadmeister. I kept the 38mm G-One Speeds on the main wheelset and the 33mm X-One Allrounds on the winter alloy wheels. But I do think the narrower knobbies feel faster, maybe because they’re lighter, and they do have a good amount of compliance, I guess from the knobs.
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Thanks, Chas and Toadmeister. I kept the 38mm G-One Speeds on the main wheelset and the 33mm X-One Allrounds on the winter alloy wheels. But I do think the narrower knobbies feel faster, maybe because they’re lighter, and they do have a good amount of compliance, I guess from the knobs.
That will work. the last 6 months I've been using 33mm X-One just cause they are laying around my garage. Work good in the winter (but I do like the extra volume in the summer).
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How do you guys feel the X-One Speed 33c fairs in this group? I'm on 80%+ asphalt and the rest FL hardpack trail stuff. I'm looking to go more unpaved though as I find new riding spots.

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How do you guys feel the X-One Speed 33c fairs in this group? I'm on 80%+ asphalt and the rest FL hardpack trail stuff. I'm looking to go more unpaved though as I find new riding spots.

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Geeze, every time I turn around there is a new version and size of this tire.

X-One is a cyclocross tire. 33mm is kinda small for gravel - like the carcass is the same size as my 32mm road tires. For gravel I like 40mm - although the hardpack we have in the summer I do use 32mm much of the time.

for FL hardpack stuff, it would be great - as long as you don't need flotation of a wider tire. I've owned tires like that in the past and love them. Fast on the straights, allow me to carve into hardpack dirt turns, more forgiving breakaway characteristics than a slick, not as draggy as a knobby.
Disadvantages: Gotta be very smooth when climbing (not a problem for you I guess). Hard cornering is going to be soft on the road (compared to a slick). Not much flotation.

For hard, dry (non muddy) conditions without hard climbing it could be ideal. I probably run 40-60psi in that size range (higher psi than a 40mm tire).
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