Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

PSA, Inflate tire to 80% psi

Search
Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

PSA, Inflate tire to 80% psi

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-19-23, 08:27 AM
  #26  
Kontact 
Senior Member
 
Kontact's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,082
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4420 Post(s)
Liked 1,568 Times in 1,030 Posts
Originally Posted by smd4
Apparently you can't feel the difference between pneumatic and solid tires. Can't help you there, bud.
At 140 psi, why would there be any difference? The point of pneumatic tires is that they conform to the road. Set the pressure high enough and they stop doing that to any useful extent - unless the rider's weight is 250 lbs.
Kontact is offline  
Likes For Kontact:
Old 05-19-23, 08:27 AM
  #27  
jadmt
Senior Member
 
jadmt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: Missoula MT
Posts: 1,767

Bikes: Handsome xoxo, Serotta atx, Canyon Endurace CF8

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 904 Post(s)
Liked 1,899 Times in 849 Posts
Originally Posted by smd4
See? It's like shooting fish in a barrel!
we must have a different definition of triggered...
jadmt is offline  
Old 05-19-23, 08:42 AM
  #28  
smd4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 5,798

Bikes: 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3515 Post(s)
Liked 2,929 Times in 1,777 Posts
Originally Posted by Kontact
At 140 psi, why would there be any difference? The point of pneumatic tires is that they conform to the road. Set the pressure high enough and they stop doing that to any useful extent - unless the rider's weight is 250 lbs.
Oh, there's a difference. You just can't feel it, apparently. I don't want my tires to "conform to the road." That's too much friction. If I want my ride to feel mushy, I'll ride a mountain bike with tires at 40 psi.
smd4 is offline  
Likes For smd4:
Old 05-19-23, 08:49 AM
  #29  
smd4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 5,798

Bikes: 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3515 Post(s)
Liked 2,929 Times in 1,777 Posts
Originally Posted by jadmt
we must have a different definition of triggered...
Definitely.
smd4 is offline  
Old 05-19-23, 09:00 AM
  #30  
cyccommute 
Mad bike riding scientist
 
cyccommute's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 27,369

Bikes: Some silver ones, a red one, a black and orange one, and a few titanium ones

Mentioned: 152 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6222 Post(s)
Liked 4,222 Times in 2,368 Posts
Originally Posted by smd4
Oh, there's a difference. You just can't feel it, apparently. I don't want my tires to "conform to the road." That's too much friction. If I want my ride to feel mushy, I'll ride a mountain bike with tires at 40 psi.
Expect that claim to be triggering as well. Current fashion is to ride mountain bike tires at <20 psi. I’ve been told that I simple “cannot ride mountain bikes with tires pumped up that hard”…even though I ride mountain bikes like that all the time. Rims are more important to me than a squishy ride.
__________________
Stuart Black
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Old School…When It Wasn’t Ancient bikepacking
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!



cyccommute is offline  
Old 05-19-23, 09:02 AM
  #31  
smd4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 5,798

Bikes: 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3515 Post(s)
Liked 2,929 Times in 1,777 Posts
Originally Posted by cyccommute
Expect that claim to be triggering as well. Current fashion is to ride mountain bike tires at <20 psi.
Eeew. That makes me think of two slugs slithering along the ground...
smd4 is offline  
Old 05-19-23, 09:10 AM
  #32  
veganbikes
Clark W. Griswold
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ,location, location
Posts: 13,558

Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26

Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4367 Post(s)
Liked 4,006 Times in 2,675 Posts
Originally Posted by rc5781
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-re...0to%2045%20psi.

I just stretched an assumption to bicycle tires.
Are you a Yoga Teacher because you are doing a lot of stretching!
veganbikes is offline  
Likes For veganbikes:
Old 05-19-23, 09:12 AM
  #33  
rc5781
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 162
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 135 Post(s)
Liked 18 Times in 12 Posts
Originally Posted by cyccommute
Expect that claim to be triggering as well. Current fashion is to ride mountain bike tires at <20 psi. I’ve been told that I simple “cannot ride mountain bikes with tires pumped up that hard”…even though I ride mountain bikes like that all the time. Rims are more important to me than a squishy ride.
I use these: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Kujo-Trib...0&from=/search

Max pressure is 65. Inflate to 51-52 psi. Liking them so far. I don't ride my mountain bike in the mountains. Just in the suburbs, riding over curbs. Don't like to bunny hop, broke too many spokes. My mountain bike isn't made for jumping, but great for my purposes.
rc5781 is offline  
Old 05-19-23, 09:34 AM
  #34  
rc5781
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 162
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 135 Post(s)
Liked 18 Times in 12 Posts
Originally Posted by veganbikes
Are you a Yoga Teacher because you are doing a lot of stretching!
I do partake in yoga. Actually, before every ride. But I don't call it yoga, though I call it stretching.
rc5781 is offline  
Old 05-19-23, 09:36 AM
  #35  
veganbikes
Clark W. Griswold
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ,location, location
Posts: 13,558

Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26

Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4367 Post(s)
Liked 4,006 Times in 2,675 Posts
Originally Posted by rc5781
I do partake in yoga. Actually, before every ride. But I don't call it yoga, though I call it stretching.
https://media.tenor.com/Bv3cdY_KItsA...oke-missed.gif
veganbikes is offline  
Old 05-19-23, 09:54 AM
  #36  
Iride01 
I'm good to go!
 
Iride01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 15,002

Bikes: Tarmac Disc Comp Di2 - 2020

Mentioned: 51 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6199 Post(s)
Liked 4,816 Times in 3,323 Posts
Since motor vehicles were brought into this from the very start of the thread, I'm going to say that 80% is definitely just bunk.

My truck tires are spec'd for 80 PSI max pressure. I'm certainly not going to ride around every day with them inflated to 64 PSI. 36 - 42 PSI is what I use normally. When I'm loaded down with cargo and the tires are obviously out of the proper profile and shape to be riding safely, then I inflate them to higher PSI. Sometimes with a trailer loaded up and a lot of tongue weight on it that sometimes is almost 64 PSI or has even been more.

Same thing applies to on a bike. It needs to be inflated to the proper pressure to give the ideal shape and contact patch. And other things come into play too, such as how one perceives the handling of the bike at a particular pressure and whether or not one regularly gets pinch flats.
Iride01 is offline  
Likes For Iride01:
Old 05-19-23, 10:41 AM
  #37  
shelbyfv
Expired Member
 
shelbyfv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: TN
Posts: 11,564
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3683 Post(s)
Liked 5,448 Times in 2,769 Posts
^^^Yep. And as with bike tires, charts exist to determine pressure based on weight of load. Or we can just go with a WAG or phase of moon or chicken entrails.
shelbyfv is offline  
Old 05-19-23, 10:56 AM
  #38  
Kontact 
Senior Member
 
Kontact's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,082
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4420 Post(s)
Liked 1,568 Times in 1,030 Posts
Originally Posted by smd4
Oh, there's a difference. You just can't feel it, apparently. I don't want my tires to "conform to the road." That's too much friction. If I want my ride to feel mushy, I'll ride a mountain bike with tires at 40 psi.
If you want your rise to feel mushy and actually be fast, you'd inflate 19c tires to 118 or so. Otherwise the who bike has to roll up and over every pebble and crack, which is slow.
Kontact is offline  
Old 05-19-23, 11:09 AM
  #39  
smd4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 5,798

Bikes: 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3515 Post(s)
Liked 2,929 Times in 1,777 Posts
Originally Posted by Kontact
If you want your rise to feel mushy and actually be fast, you'd inflate 19c tires to 118 or so. Otherwise the who bike has to roll up and over every pebble and crack, which is slow.
They're not slow. And I like the road feel.

There’s nothing wrong with narrow tires, of course. If you prefer the ‘connected-to-the-road’ feel of a racing bike, then you’ll be happier on narrow tires. If your friends tease you to get ‘with the program,’ remind them: narrow tires are not slower than wide tires – they just aren’t faster, either.
smd4 is offline  
Old 05-19-23, 06:55 PM
  #40  
Kontact 
Senior Member
 
Kontact's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,082
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4420 Post(s)
Liked 1,568 Times in 1,030 Posts
Originally Posted by smd4
They're not slow. And I like the road feel.
They are actually, measurably slower because the bike has to actually travel further, up and down. This is why everyone has become aware of correct pressure in recent years.
Kontact is offline  
Old 05-19-23, 06:56 PM
  #41  
smd4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 5,798

Bikes: 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3515 Post(s)
Liked 2,929 Times in 1,777 Posts
Did you read what I quoted?
smd4 is offline  
Old 05-19-23, 08:15 PM
  #42  
Kontact 
Senior Member
 
Kontact's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,082
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4420 Post(s)
Liked 1,568 Times in 1,030 Posts
Originally Posted by smd4
Did you read what I quoted?
I didn't say narrow tires are slow, so what you quoted was off topic. I was riding some 20c tires last year.

Over pressure tires, regardless of width, are slow.
Kontact is offline  
Likes For Kontact:
Old 05-19-23, 08:18 PM
  #43  
smd4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 5,798

Bikes: 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3515 Post(s)
Liked 2,929 Times in 1,777 Posts
Originally Posted by Kontact
I didn't say narrow tires are slow, so what you quoted was off topic. I was riding some 20c tires last year.

Over pressure tires, regardless of width, are slow.
They’re not “over pressure.” Listen—you ride at whatever pressure works for you, and I’ll do the same. I hope you win whatever race you’re in.

Last edited by smd4; 05-19-23 at 08:26 PM.
smd4 is offline  
Old 05-19-23, 08:27 PM
  #44  
rc5781
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 162
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 135 Post(s)
Liked 18 Times in 12 Posts

Click settings cog, click "playback speed," click "custom", adjust to 1.3 speed and play...

Last edited by rc5781; 05-19-23 at 08:44 PM.
rc5781 is offline  
Old 05-19-23, 08:48 PM
  #45  
smd4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 5,798

Bikes: 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3515 Post(s)
Liked 2,929 Times in 1,777 Posts
Originally Posted by Kontact
At 140 psi, why would there be any difference?
Stuff like this is what makes me suspect your credentials. You—seriously—don’t think there’s a difference between pneumatic tires pumped to a high pressure and solid tires? You think they ride exactly the same? Do you also think they weigh the same? Have the same responsiveness? Please tell me you don’t. I’ll lose what little respect I still have for you.
smd4 is offline  
Old 05-19-23, 08:49 PM
  #46  
dedhed
SE Wis
 
dedhed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 10,517

Bikes: '68 Raleigh Sprite, '02 Raleigh C500, '84 Raleigh Gran Prix, '91 Trek 400, 2013 Novara Randonee, 1990 Trek 970

Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2747 Post(s)
Liked 3,401 Times in 2,058 Posts
Originally Posted by squirtdad
wrong and dangerous for cars
for cars you follow the manufacturers recommendations other wise you risk loss of control and handling and increase risk of blowouts with under inflation
​​​​​​https://www.citizen.org/article/fire...mmittee-on-co/
dedhed is offline  
Old 05-19-23, 09:22 PM
  #47  
Kontact 
Senior Member
 
Kontact's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,082
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4420 Post(s)
Liked 1,568 Times in 1,030 Posts
Originally Posted by smd4
Stuff like this is what makes me suspect your credentials. You—seriously—don’t think there’s a difference between pneumatic tires pumped to a high pressure and solid tires? You think they ride exactly the same? Do you also think they weigh the same? Have the same responsiveness? Please tell me you don’t. I’ll lose what little respect I still have for you.
Let me solve that for you. Ignored.
Kontact is offline  
Old 05-19-23, 09:24 PM
  #48  
smd4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 5,798

Bikes: 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3515 Post(s)
Liked 2,929 Times in 1,777 Posts
Originally Posted by Kontact
Let me solve that for you. Ignored.
Awesome! You and Kapaun. I never felt in better company!
smd4 is offline  
Old 05-19-23, 10:18 PM
  #49  
elcruxio
Senior Member
 
elcruxio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Turku, Finland, Europe
Posts: 2,495

Bikes: 2011 Specialized crux comp, 2013 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 862 Post(s)
Liked 336 Times in 223 Posts
Originally Posted by smd4
They're not slow. And I like the road feel.
Why are you talking about speed? You've stated multiple times that you don't care about speed, only that your ride feels fast.

Those two are different things. Overinflated tires feel fast while properly inflated fast tires feel like very little. Because they conform.
elcruxio is offline  
Likes For elcruxio:
Old 05-19-23, 10:35 PM
  #50  
DiabloScott
It's MY mountain
 
DiabloScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mt.Diablo
Posts: 10,002

Bikes: Klein, Merckx, Trek

Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4338 Post(s)
Liked 2,982 Times in 1,618 Posts
Originally Posted by rc5781
For longevity and "I know what psi my tires need to be...." I meant 80% of max psi.
Do you mean 80% of the recommended max psi? or 80% of the REAL max psi?
DiabloScott is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.