Trainer/stationary bike miles
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Trainer/stationary bike miles
I have an old Airdyne stationary bike. That I picked up from Nextdoor. Do you count stationary bike towards your total milage? I have not been so far but I know how much I have put on it
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What ever floats your boat. I don't even upload the rides I do on a stationary bike or trainer. If I did, I'd just count the time. I don't do much time on them anyway. So if you do a lot, then go by whatever makes sense to you. It's your training after all.
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there is no real reason why not. although simulated miles they still require you to work. i have an app that i use that keeps them separate so i can track. time makes sense but probably energy expended might make more sense. i just do miles and elevation.
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You might want to consider buying a cheap pulse meter. Or maybe you can buy a Bluetooth chest belt that syncs with your phone.
Then, you could do a few outdoor rides to determine what your heart rate looks like over the course of a training ride and then try to match that (and your average outdoor cadence) on the indoor bike.
Then, you could do a few outdoor rides to determine what your heart rate looks like over the course of a training ride and then try to match that (and your average outdoor cadence) on the indoor bike.
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I keep a journal with Miles, date and what bike I rode. Outside I track that with the unban biker app. The old Schwinn Airdyne I have has analog pedal revolution/effort gauge that I use to maintain a steady pace
The problems with my feet came on slow and you really don't notice until you get bad. I used my bike riding journal to determine when my foot problems started by when my miles started going down
edit: the urban biker tracks elevation, but I don't put it in my notes
The problems with my feet came on slow and you really don't notice until you get bad. I used my bike riding journal to determine when my foot problems started by when my miles started going down
edit: the urban biker tracks elevation, but I don't put it in my notes
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I do. I typically log about 1000 miles on the trainer over the winter. Much of that is interval training...
My garmin speed sensor tracks speed, my power meters track power - x watts per hour is x watts per hour regardless of being indoors or outside. And the speed numbers are pretty spot on, within a 1/2 MPH.
I will be on a smart trainer/zwift this winter. Even more accurate numbers and I plan on logging more miles... so yes, to me they count.
My garmin speed sensor tracks speed, my power meters track power - x watts per hour is x watts per hour regardless of being indoors or outside. And the speed numbers are pretty spot on, within a 1/2 MPH.
I will be on a smart trainer/zwift this winter. Even more accurate numbers and I plan on logging more miles... so yes, to me they count.
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No. But I live in CA and do very few miles on the Revmaster. But when I was recovering from open heart surgery and they wouldn't let me ride for 6 weeks, I put my time and avg. HR manually on my Strava -- mostly so others on the Cardiac Athletes website could see what others are doing post surgery.
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LOL! Here we go...
Regular readers of BF -- though admittedly more in the Road Cycling subforum than the 50+ -- are probably quite familiar with my take on this question. Call it my personal bugaboo. But for the record:
Your trainer/stationary bike covers no distance when you use it; it stays in one place (hence the name "stationary bike" ...the dictionary definition of Stationary is "not moving")
"Miles" is a measure of distance.
No distance = no miles.
Ergo, one literally cannot count any miles achieved on a trainer or stationary bike...because you did not achieve any miles.
However, you definitely A) spent some time on the trainer/stationary bike; B) expended some energy on the trainer/stationary bike; and C) caused the rear wheel to rotate on the trainer/stationary bike.
So, if you want to count something as an achievment on your trainer/stationary bike, count time, or work, or wheel revolutions.
Just don't count miles.
:::gets off soapbox:::
Regular readers of BF -- though admittedly more in the Road Cycling subforum than the 50+ -- are probably quite familiar with my take on this question. Call it my personal bugaboo. But for the record:
Your trainer/stationary bike covers no distance when you use it; it stays in one place (hence the name "stationary bike" ...the dictionary definition of Stationary is "not moving")
"Miles" is a measure of distance.
No distance = no miles.
Ergo, one literally cannot count any miles achieved on a trainer or stationary bike...because you did not achieve any miles.
However, you definitely A) spent some time on the trainer/stationary bike; B) expended some energy on the trainer/stationary bike; and C) caused the rear wheel to rotate on the trainer/stationary bike.
So, if you want to count something as an achievment on your trainer/stationary bike, count time, or work, or wheel revolutions.
Just don't count miles.
:::gets off soapbox:::
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LOL! Here we go...
Regular readers of BF -- though admittedly more in the Road Cycling subforum than the 50+ -- are probably quite familiar with my take on this question. Call it my personal bugaboo. But for the record:
Your trainer/stationary bike covers no distance when you use it; it stays in one place (hence the name "stationary bike" ...the dictionary definition of Stationary is "not moving")
"Miles" is a measure of distance.
No distance = no miles.
Ergo, one literally cannot count any miles achieved on a trainer or stationary bike...because you did not achieve any miles.
However, you definitely A) spent some time on the trainer/stationary bike; B) expended some energy on the trainer/stationary bike; and C) caused the rear wheel to rotate on the trainer/stationary bike.
So, if you want to count something as an achievment on your trainer/stationary bike, count time, or work, or wheel revolutions.
Just don't count miles.
:::gets off soapbox:::
Regular readers of BF -- though admittedly more in the Road Cycling subforum than the 50+ -- are probably quite familiar with my take on this question. Call it my personal bugaboo. But for the record:
Your trainer/stationary bike covers no distance when you use it; it stays in one place (hence the name "stationary bike" ...the dictionary definition of Stationary is "not moving")
"Miles" is a measure of distance.
No distance = no miles.
Ergo, one literally cannot count any miles achieved on a trainer or stationary bike...because you did not achieve any miles.
However, you definitely A) spent some time on the trainer/stationary bike; B) expended some energy on the trainer/stationary bike; and C) caused the rear wheel to rotate on the trainer/stationary bike.
So, if you want to count something as an achievment on your trainer/stationary bike, count time, or work, or wheel revolutions.
Just don't count miles.
:::gets off soapbox:::
That said, I'm still including virtual miles in my yearly totals because that's the unit of measurement that cyclists typically use when discussing how much they rode.
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Indoors there is no air drag to overcome so quite different than riding outdoors. The indoors workout is good for your aerobic conditioning so not worthless but not a replacement for time spent on the road outdoors.
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I've found that for certain types of efforts, doing them on a trainer is more effective than on the road because there aren't interruptions. In my area, there aren't a lot of options where I can just pedal at a steady effort for an extended time. For me, trainer work has been very beneficial for improving my fitness.
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LOL! Here we go...
Regular readers of BF -- though admittedly more in the Road Cycling subforum than the 50+ -- are probably quite familiar with my take on this question. Call it my personal bugaboo. But for the record:
Your trainer/stationary bike covers no distance when you use it; it stays in one place (hence the name "stationary bike" ...the dictionary definition of Stationary is "not moving")
"Miles" is a measure of distance.
No distance = no miles.
Ergo, one literally cannot count any miles achieved on a trainer or stationary bike...because you did not achieve any miles.
However, you definitely A) spent some time on the trainer/stationary bike; B) expended some energy on the trainer/stationary bike; and C) caused the rear wheel to rotate on the trainer/stationary bike.
So, if you want to count something as an achievment on your trainer/stationary bike, count time, or work, or wheel revolutions.
Just don't count miles.
:::gets off soapbox:::
Regular readers of BF -- though admittedly more in the Road Cycling subforum than the 50+ -- are probably quite familiar with my take on this question. Call it my personal bugaboo. But for the record:
Your trainer/stationary bike covers no distance when you use it; it stays in one place (hence the name "stationary bike" ...the dictionary definition of Stationary is "not moving")
"Miles" is a measure of distance.
No distance = no miles.
Ergo, one literally cannot count any miles achieved on a trainer or stationary bike...because you did not achieve any miles.
However, you definitely A) spent some time on the trainer/stationary bike; B) expended some energy on the trainer/stationary bike; and C) caused the rear wheel to rotate on the trainer/stationary bike.
So, if you want to count something as an achievment on your trainer/stationary bike, count time, or work, or wheel revolutions.
Just don't count miles.
:::gets off soapbox:::
just having a little fun there.
either way, my legs feel the work real riding or virtual riding.
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Zwift does not calculate speed/distance just based on wheel rotations, but on W/kg. While it's not perfect, it's not a long ways off of reality.
I've found that for certain types of efforts, doing them on a trainer is more effective than on the road because there aren't interruptions. In my area, there aren't a lot of options where I can just pedal at a steady effort for an extended time. For me, trainer work has been very beneficial for improving my fitness.
I've found that for certain types of efforts, doing them on a trainer is more effective than on the road because there aren't interruptions. In my area, there aren't a lot of options where I can just pedal at a steady effort for an extended time. For me, trainer work has been very beneficial for improving my fitness.
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LOL! Here we go...
Regular readers of BF -- though admittedly more in the Road Cycling subforum than the 50+ -- are probably quite familiar with my take on this question. Call it my personal bugaboo. But for the record:
Your trainer/stationary bike covers no distance when you use it; it stays in one place (hence the name "stationary bike" ...the dictionary definition of Stationary is "not moving")
"Miles" is a measure of distance.
No distance = no miles.
Ergo, one literally cannot count any miles achieved on a trainer or stationary bike...because you did not achieve any miles.
However, you definitely A) spent some time on the trainer/stationary bike; B) expended some energy on the trainer/stationary bike; and C) caused the rear wheel to rotate on the trainer/stationary bike.
So, if you want to count something as an achievment on your trainer/stationary bike, count time, or work, or wheel revolutions.
Just don't count miles.
:::gets off soapbox:::
Regular readers of BF -- though admittedly more in the Road Cycling subforum than the 50+ -- are probably quite familiar with my take on this question. Call it my personal bugaboo. But for the record:
Your trainer/stationary bike covers no distance when you use it; it stays in one place (hence the name "stationary bike" ...the dictionary definition of Stationary is "not moving")
"Miles" is a measure of distance.
No distance = no miles.
Ergo, one literally cannot count any miles achieved on a trainer or stationary bike...because you did not achieve any miles.
However, you definitely A) spent some time on the trainer/stationary bike; B) expended some energy on the trainer/stationary bike; and C) caused the rear wheel to rotate on the trainer/stationary bike.
So, if you want to count something as an achievment on your trainer/stationary bike, count time, or work, or wheel revolutions.
Just don't count miles.
:::gets off soapbox:::
Wow, those 3,222.1 "non miles" on Zwift were all for nothing....
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Your 3222.1 whatevers on Zwift are an accomplishment to be celebrated...either for the time logged, or the work produced, or simply the rotations of your wheel. But you didn't cover any distance, so you did not actually ride 3222.1 "miles" on Zwift.
Words has meanings.
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Zwift does not calculate speed/distance just based on wheel rotations, but on W/kg. While it's not perfect, it's not a long ways off of reality.
I've found that for certain types of efforts, doing them on a trainer is more effective than on the road because there aren't interruptions. In my area, there aren't a lot of options where I can just pedal at a steady effort for an extended time. For me, trainer work has been very beneficial for improving my fitness.
I've found that for certain types of efforts, doing them on a trainer is more effective than on the road because there aren't interruptions. In my area, there aren't a lot of options where I can just pedal at a steady effort for an extended time. For me, trainer work has been very beneficial for improving my fitness.
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Do my e-stationary bike miles count?
I have a large screen display that makes it seem almost road-race-real, and a fan that makes it feel breezy..... and, ... and I think they should count.
I have a large screen display that makes it seem almost road-race-real, and a fan that makes it feel breezy..... and, ... and I think they should count.
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Some folks count e-bike miles and some folks count trainer miles. The trainer only ASSISTS with weather, climbing, balance, effort, road hazards, …
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I don’t use a bike trainer nor do I count miles. But I do use an elliptical at times and that counts as part of my workout time during the week. Stationary bike work would count, too, to my way of looking at it.
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Let me expand a little bit. Until 2017 I averaged 700 miles a year several health issues hit me, foot problems, diverticulitis and type 2 diabetic. 2 foot surgeries and 40 lbs down , still 290's I am working on getting back to riding . I have a tough time staying interested in a stationary bike. Being outside is a big part of why I like to ride a bike. Since I started back to riding the second week of May I have around 150 miles. Weather didn't cooperate this weekend 😡 I have always logged miles, where and what bike I rode . I have been logging time and miles on the Airdyne but not adding it to my total . I was wondering what others thought on this.
For the record I am maintenance in a Level one Trauma center and walk 3-7 miles a shift. For the past few years by the time I got through work I was in too much pain or too exhausted to ride or do much else for that matter . I am slowly gaining strength back
For the record I am maintenance in a Level one Trauma center and walk 3-7 miles a shift. For the past few years by the time I got through work I was in too much pain or too exhausted to ride or do much else for that matter . I am slowly gaining strength back
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plumberroy I say log the time and miles. It's part of riding for fitness.
A comment on indoor riding - the smart trainer + riding simulation like Zwift make a huge difference in enjoyment, the seat time goes by much faster. Plus the rides are automatically logged with a lot of data which is great for the fitness side.
A comment on indoor riding - the smart trainer + riding simulation like Zwift make a huge difference in enjoyment, the seat time goes by much faster. Plus the rides are automatically logged with a lot of data which is great for the fitness side.
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I would say do whatever you feel is right, it is not like you win anything or take anything away from someone else.
I recently bought a Bowflex spin bike.
It tells me, for example that I am going 20 mph, with commensurate mileage.
I KNOW that with that effort I would not be going 20 mph on the road unless it was downhill.
I pay attention to cadence and heartrate (don't have a power meter) and subjective breathlessness.
I do find it translates to better performance (such as it is!) on the road.
I recently bought a Bowflex spin bike.
It tells me, for example that I am going 20 mph, with commensurate mileage.
I KNOW that with that effort I would not be going 20 mph on the road unless it was downhill.
I pay attention to cadence and heartrate (don't have a power meter) and subjective breathlessness.
I do find it translates to better performance (such as it is!) on the road.
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I log my indoor rides. Actually, I upload all my athletic endeavors to TrainingPeaks to help me track my training stress and that sort of thing. I only upload outdoor rides to Strava and only tandem rides to RWGPS. Helps to sort out what I did when I'm planning my next year's training.
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