WhyFi

Oh, absolutely - that should have been the first option, but I think that his patch question was more of a "moving forward from here..." kind of thing.

shelbyfv

OP may be the target market for those air-less tires that were discussed in another recent thread.

rsbob 

Yeah you guys are right about trying the plugs first, but had read that on sidewalls they weren’t that effective. But on the interface they may have worked. OK I’m an idiot.

Nother question. It appears that seating new, or repaired, tubeless is a PITA, even with a good floor pump unless you get the special ones whic pressurize to X bar. I have a compressor which I want to use rather than forking out more moola.

Is there a decent shrader to presta converter I can use with the shrader connection on my compressor? (I have looked at 6 threads on presta/shrader, but none have addressed this issue, unless you can point me to a specific one). TIA

Koyote

I think you want to remove the presta valve core, then just use a fitting (on your compressor hose) that will fit on it well enough to get air into it. At least, that's what I do with my neighbor's compressor when I have a tire that won't go on with a floor pump.

Yep, fitting and removing a tubeless tire a few times can stretch the bead. Not always a problem, but it can be. That's another good reason to maintain good sealant and carry plugs.

WhyFi

A tubeless tire should be easier to seat after the initial install. If it's not, I'd wipe down the rim tape and make sure the beads are slippery enough to pop up and in to place.

All that said, nothing wrong with using a compressor, and the adapters sitting in the cup next to the cash register at the LBS have always worked for me.

jadocs

….and if you feel up to it, do a double wrap on the rim tape with the appropriate width tape. It makes seating those problem tires easier.

shelbyfv

You can get a presta to Schrader adapter at any bike shop, cheap. However, you might want to give it a try with your regular floor pump. I'm able to seat 42mm tires with a regular pump, just remove the valve core to increase the volume and pump fast.

DaveSSS 

I recently took a dive into modern biking, building up a new Cinelli superstar disc with fulcrum racing 3 wheels that require no rim tape. I put the new michelin power road tubeless tires on those wheels. In the unlikely event of a puncture that won't seal, I carry a tube and two co2 cartridges. With a tube installed, a big blast of air to seat the bead shouldn't be required. I carry nitrile gloves too. I may have to practice such an event, but I've never had a cut tire in 35 years, so it's unlikely. Riding mountain descents, pinch flats from rocks are common. Tubeless should stop that.

Mulberry20

Maybe

Aladin

I'll suggest: a tube-ass mount should be able w a floor pump even w presta inserted. Haven't tried your route-- often touted, on schrader.

Rationale: when your tube-ass wears and stretches-- your CO2 roadside will almost always pop your bead back.. if your loose it. Rim to tire interference is critical... given both components vary so much in measurement/fits. I have even run 3 wraps of tape w some rubber for this fit.. see tire jack.

One dude pointed it right on cuts.. not always will your seal-not get it done. Suggest: dump a decent dose of DRY glitter in BEFORE you ad seal-not. Spin and distribute.. then the seal-not addition.

JOB ONE---- if your can't re-inflate your flat tube-ass roadside minus bead.. your dipped.

WhyFi

Woof. This is surely the first time that I've used the Ignore function simply because it was taking too much time trying to make heads or tails of a user's (intentionally?) incoherent posts.

Aladin

LOL.. an intelligent reader can get it. Keyboard queen types.. aka the senior element w bibs.. not so much. Go to wallyworld and buy a life.

Goldrush

We've used AAA before, but now because of COVID forget it.

tomato coupe

Some people seem to write more for self-amusement than for conveying information to others. A personal journal might be a better place for that type of post.

boozergut

Exactly, if I still need to carry a tube and a pump then I'm not seeing the advantage over tubes with tire liners and higher end gravel tires.

Koyote

Sigh.

If you don't understand the advantages, you've learned nothing about tubeless. Try reading up a bit.

WhyFi

This thought pops up from tubeless naysayers with surprising frequency. I find it odd that y'all seem to think that carrying a tube and pump is the problem that needs to be solved, as opposed to, oh, flats. Tubeless has eliminated something like 95% of my flats over the last four or five years - I'd say that's a pretty solid advantage.

Lemond1985

I have, and tubeless tires don't handle the kind of pressures that I run, very well at all. And the attitude alone of people who are die-hard tubeless advocates is enough to turn anyone off. When they have to result to insults, the logical inference is that this is due to defensiveness. But defensiveness about what? The fact that tubeless can't handle high pressures well?

I remain unconvinced.

boozergut

I have purchased "tubeless ready" gravel tires, but I still feel like we are in the Windows 97 era of tubeless technology.

Koyote

@Lemond1985 : You realize that I wasn't responding to you, right?

The "attitude" that you mentioned is hard to suppress, when so many posters deride something that they clearly don't understand. To wit: if you think the only advantage of tubeless tires is that they may allow you to ride without a spare tube, then you really don't understand tubeless.

WhyFi

I've run tubeless on 25mm tires at 105psi (I was heavier at the time) and never had a puncture fail to seal on those tires, even a double puncture from a large construction staple that I had to pry out with pocket knife. Much of the "tubeless doesn't work at road pressure" stems from early road adopters thinking that Stan's, which works great at MTB pressures, should also work at road pressure... but it just doesn't.

tomato coupe

It's not solely about the advantages; it's about weighing the advantages against the disadvantages.

WhyFi

Obviously, but if you don't know what the advantages are in the first place, then it's kind of hard to weigh them, no?

tomato coupe

Yes, that's true. It seems, however, that proponents gloss over the disadvantages while detractors gloss over the advantages. So, detractors could just as easily claim "if you don't know the disadvantages, it's kind of hard to weigh them."

Koyote

Exactly.

On bf, when people express dislike for tubeless tires and Di2, they usually simultaneously demonstrate that they don't even understand the technologies.

There's no law against ignorance. But it shouldn't be spread around so casually.