robbyville

Decided I’d start to carry these with me for those just in case situations where the sealant may not work. In 4 full years it’s happened to me twice both within the last year which is why I must be thinking about it.

i realize that normally this would be done on a freshly punctured tire still mounted to the rim and presumably with some air still in the tire.

this is a brand new Schwalbe with a cut that seems pretty small. It didn’t seal (at the time). I put this plug in for practice but I’m hoping that I can use the tire again. Does this look right? The plug was incredibly sticky (very hot in the garage) and would not easily come off the tool. In fact I kept pushing it through the hole and had to sort of remove from the tool with my hand pushing the plug down so that it would not come out of the hole.

Do I ride on it like this or cut off the protruding exterior part?

thanks as always!

b5s4mike

I only use bacon strips to get home when sealant won't do the job. Once home and able to dismount the tire I use Hutchinson tubeless patch kits. I don't think I would want to head out on a long ride with the bacon strip hanging out if I can avoid it.

*Edit- the strip looks like its installed correctly but I would want more in the inside of the tire so it doesn't work its way out

DrIsotope

When and if you run out of those, I don't hesitate to recommend Dynaplugs. No guesswork as to whether they've engaged, and they'll last the life of the tire.

trailangel

^^^ Ya.
If it was a low pressure MTB tire I would ride it. But looks like a High pressure road tire, I would buy a new tire. I think you could cut off most of the outside part but I wouldn't ride it myself.

DrIsotope

No need to replace a tire with a hole/cut that small. I've had Dynaplugs go ~3k miles (getting a cut on like the 2nd or 3rd ride on a new tire) and other tires go to their treadwear indicators with numerous Rema patches on the inside. If cords aren't cut (meaning the hole isn't getting any bigger) the tire is good to go IME.

robbyville

thanks! I will order some dyna plugs. These were from Lezyn not sure but based on thickness I would t be surprised if they are mtb specific

oldwinger14

I recently used a DynaPlug to fix a flat, and have had no problems. Some of the plug does stick out a little bit, but since it does not touch the road surface it has not been a problem. I have left it as it is.

thecycleclinic

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thecycleclinic

two problems here

First have you plugged from the inside of the tyre? Also you have more plug outside the tyre than inside. That a plug thag could blow out.
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second you leave the tyre in seated. Your not meant to remove the tyre to plug it.

never remove your tyre unless your planning to replace it. You have added work here for no gain.

WhyFi

FWIW, for a cut too big to seal with OS and with that type of bacon strip plug, I've found that they'll push out sooner rather than later. What I've done is tie the strip in a knot, not always easy with how sticky it is, and then shove it in so that the knot is on the inside of the carcass. I tried leaving a knotted plug in a ~5mm / 1/4" cut permanently, but it ended up blowing out a few hundred miles later, so I'll probably treat them as a get-me-home fix and then internally patch (assuming that there's not enough casing damage to warrant tossing the tire).

If Dynaplugs are more likely to stay put in that type of cut, I'm all ears - that would be a good reason to for me to switch.

Atlas Shrugged

Mine have stayed in for over 1,500 km after which I tossed the tire as it was its time. I always carry a small pocket knife to trim the end.

WhyFi

Dynaplugs?

Atlas Shrugged

Yup. Use Dyaplug Racer. Used the big plug as well once due to a large cut and it sealed enough for the 45km to get home. Schwalbe G One Speeds 30 mm

robbyville

Understood and thanks. As mentioned at the beginning of this thread, I knew that normally the plug would go onto a mounted tire, this was more for practice but good to know that it's too short on the inside. FWIW I installed it from the outside as would traditionally be done but since this was a first I had no idea how much should go in.

Awesome, good call as always thanks! So what internal patch would you recommend? The tire is obviously just waiting for its next use. But I doubt there were even a few hundred miles on it when this happened, so if I can have a reliable patch and get a normal life out of this tire I would be incredible happy.

I will definitely get those once done with these Lezyn ones. Hopefully I won't have to use them for a while but happy to be carrying them in the short term..

WhyFi

I've only ever done it once and it was just the normal tube patch and vulcanizing fluid from the Park patch kit. I ended up wearing that tire down to the cords, so it seems to have worked fine.

robbyville

Well there’s a reason to press the now defunct “easy” button. Thanks!

fstshrk

+1 for dynaplug. expensive but totally worth it.

jadocs

Honestly, I would patch that from the inside, not put a plug in it. I always patch mine after I get home with a plug.

DrIsotope

Yeah, if the tire is already off (and cleaned, from the looks of it,) might as well patch it.

robbyville

makes total sense thanks so much. I didn’t realize that the plugs were more a roadside fix (which is what I was wanting in the first place), and that I could patch from the inside after.

funnily enough, I just threw away a Tube patch kit that I found in my tool box that must have been a decade old. I haven’t patched a tube in probably 25 years opting for the easy way out and just replacing with new.

Going to pick up a patch kit today!

guadzilla

Hutchinson sells a patch kit that is meant specifically for sidewall cuts and the like - was thinking of getting a set of those, but if a regular tube patch works, i'm on the mofo.

WhyFi

There wasn't any bulge at the cut, so I assumed that anything that made it airtight (or close enough for the sealant to finish it off) would be fine.

That and I had 'em on hand and couldn't be bothered to seek out another solution.

guadzilla

Ah, you patched on the outside? I was thinking of patching on the inside - but if outside works, so much the better, I guess. I assume this is sidewall only - cant imagine a patch staying on the tread.

WhyFi

No, no - I patched the inside.