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Addiction LXXVI

Old 11-15-19, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Wut? As a lefty I have always run my front brake lever on the right. Drives people
crazy.
Who was it a couple years ago at TdF -- I think it was Tejay -- had to borrow a teammates bike during the middle of a stage and nearly died on a descent because he didn't realize the teammate had the front brake lever on the right.

That's what I worry about.

(Let's all ignore the fact that I'm not in the TdF, or in Europe, or any place with long descents, nor on a team, and rarely ride with other people, and have never actually been in a situation in which someone needed to ride my bike to finish a stage, or for any other reason.)

Totally valid!
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
I only eat stroopwafels when they are given out on United flights. I think I can afford those calories. Now if I were still traveling on business, that might not be true.
Lately I have been eating "Nature's Bakery" fig bars for my mid-ride fuel, but I do like me some good stroopwafels. Will try to swing by Aldi's this weekend and try some.
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I'm still eating leftover halloween mini-snickers as ride fuel. This says less about the amount of candy we bought and more about the amount of riding I have not been doing.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
I only eat stroopwafels when they are given out on United flights. I think I can afford those calories. Now if I were still traveling on business, that might not be true.
Yes
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Originally Posted by datlas
Nuclear option is get a recumbent.
Goes without saying.
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Bananas are about the only mid ride fuel I consume anymore. And on that note, if I get out now I may have a chance. There was light drizzle for the dog walk, from which I've just returned.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
Goes without saying.
And yet it was said. Twice.
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Holy schnikidies, folks - that was, uh... fun.

I started my Sufferfest trial today. The major thing that differentiates them from others is that they test you all along your power curve, instead of tailoring everything based solely upon your FTP. They call it 4DP and, within one hour, you'll have all-out tests at 5 sec (twice), 5 min, 20 min and 60 sec. Ouchy. After completing the test, they'll tell you which aspect sucks less than the others and give you an idea of your rider type.

As predicted, they told me that I'm a climber.

Okay, jk. They say I'm a Pursuiter - "If you have five minutes to give it everything, no one else has a chance. You may lack the kick of the true sprinter or the steady, diesel-like power of the breakaway specialist, but you can put your head down and do serious damage on the track or shorter time trials. As a Pursuiter, you have Maximal Aerobic Power to spare. That 5-minute effort in Full Frontal? That’s your happy place. "

That actually sounds about right.

Even though I'm only one day in to my trial with Sufferfest, this is feeling much more up my alley vs Zwift.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Holy schnikidies, folks - that was, uh... fun.

I started my Sufferfest trial today. The major thing that differentiates them from others is that they test you all along your power curve, instead of tailoring everything based solely upon your FTP. They call it 4DP and, within one hour, you'll have all-out tests at 5 sec (twice), 5 min, 20 min and 60 sec. Ouchy. After completing the test, they'll tell you which aspect sucks less than the others and give you an idea of your rider type.

As predicted, they told me that I'm a climber.

Okay, jk. They say I'm a Pursuiter - "If you have five minutes to give it everything, no one else has a chance. You may lack the kick of the true sprinter or the steady, diesel-like power of the breakaway specialist, but you can put your head down and do serious damage on the track or shorter time trials. As a Pursuiter, you have Maximal Aerobic Power to spare. That 5-minute effort in Full Frontal? That’s your happy place. "

That actually sounds about right.

Even though I'm only one day in to my trial with Sufferfest, this is feeling much more up my alley vs Zwift.
Nice! intervals.icu told me I was a Cat V time trialist. Now that's some serious shade!

I suppose I can comfort myself with the knowledge that it doesn't know how old I am.

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Old 11-15-19, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by datlas
Nuclear option is get a recumbent.
I've not tried one but methinks I would freak out having such a low profile in traffic. Just to ride mups is a possibility.
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Old 11-15-19, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Might not work for you, but I found rehab, and then gym work, directed at the deep neck muscles after my surgical adventure, very helpful. I have mechanically limited extension, but still manage about a 4" seat-bars drop on the road bike and could probably go down a 5mm spacer.

I may also have gotten better at lifting my eyebrows and rolling my eyeballs up.
Hmmm, neck exercises are worth a try.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Nice! intervals.icu told me I was a Cat V time trialist. Now that's some serious shade!

I suppose I can comfort myself with the knowledge that it doesn't know how old I am.
Lol. You have to enter your age and weight with Sufferfest, so no hiding.

Just looked at my Strava power curve for the ride. Yeah. Pretty much re-wrote everything shorter 45 minutes, so either it was a tough ride or I've been a big effin' slacker for the last 6 weeks.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Hmmm, neck exercises are worth a try.
While my C-spine was going to hell and I had repeated attacks of neck stiffness and pain, they gave me lots of stretching exercises, which were of minimal help. It was only after they rebuilt the damn thing that they (other people) started with strengh training and I haven't had a stiff neck since. I have to wonder if some of that early on would have slowed the degenerative process.

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Originally Posted by ksryder
Who was it a couple years ago at TdF -- I think it was Tejay -- had to borrow a teammates bike during the middle of a stage and nearly died on a descent because he didn't realize the teammate had the front brake lever on the right.

That's what I worry about.

(Let's all ignore the fact that I'm not in the TdF, or in Europe, or any place with long descents, nor on a team, and rarely ride with other people, and have never actually been in a situation in which someone needed to ride my bike to finish a stage, or for any other reason.)

Totally valid!
But your point is valid. I was just getting up to speed on a mup and was so awkward trying to shift with my right and steer with my left I almost rode down a steep ravine. It was pretty scary, I had to stop and say WTF a few times before my old memory kicked in.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Lol. You have to enter your age and weight with Sufferfest, so no hiding.

Just looked at my Strava power curve for the ride. Yeah. Pretty much re-wrote everything shorter 45 minutes, so either it was a tough ride or I've been a big effin' slacker for the last 6 weeks.
Should have said, it knows; it just doesn't care.

So, what was the test? Got a link to a chart?
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Originally Posted by BillyD
But your point is valid. I was just getting up to speed on a mup and was so awkward trying to shift with my right and steer with my left I almost rode down a steep ravine. It was pretty scary, I had to stop and say WTF a few times before my old memory kicked in.
Yeah I might do that this winter while I'm hibernating and getting fat and weak instead of working out. At least on my gravel bike because with gravel THERE ARE NO RULES. [insert devils horns emoji in your imagination here]
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Originally Posted by BillyD
But your point is valid. I was just getting up to speed on a mup and was so awkward trying to shift with my right and steer with my left I almost rode down a steep ravine. It was pretty scary, I had to stop and say WTF a few times before my old memory kicked in.
Stop copying me.
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Originally Posted by ksryder
Yeah I might do that this winter while I'm hibernating and getting fat and weak instead of working out. At least on my gravel bike because with gravel THERE ARE NO RULES. [insert devils horns emoji in your imagination here]
I thought that was Outback Steakhouse. No rules, just right.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Should have said, it knows; it just doesn't care.

So, what was the test? Got a link to a chart?
4DP Full Frontal -



Magenta is the sprints, yellow is the 5 min test. Big blue block is the 20 min FTP - since it follows the super fun 5 min test, they don't knock you 5% like a typical 20 min test. Then the orange is a 60 sec test which also gives them an idea of how you recover from efforts and how big of a matchbook you have in your pocket.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Maybe next year.
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Maybe get one of those adjustable stems. Flip it. Up. Fredly but maybe you get four days next year.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
But your point is valid. I was just getting up to speed on a mup and was so awkward trying to shift with my right and steer with my left I almost rode down a steep ravine. It was pretty scary, I had to stop and say WTF a few times before my old memory kicked in.
You could also splurge and get modern shifting and a new stem, leaving both hands on the bars. Maybe even a new bike with comfort geometry for tall old men.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Nice! intervals.icu told me I was a Cat V time trialist. Now that's some serious shade!

I suppose I can comfort myself with the knowledge that it doesn't know how old I am.
Everyone is a Cat 5. That's where it starts.
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You could also splurge and get modern shifting and a new stem, leaving both hands on the bars.
What's with all this crazy talk?!
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Holy schnikidies, folks - that was, uh... fun.

I started my Sufferfest trial today. The major thing that differentiates them from others is that they test you all along your power curve, instead of tailoring everything based solely upon your FTP. They call it 4DP and, within one hour, you'll have all-out tests at 5 sec (twice), 5 min, 20 min and 60 sec. Ouchy. After completing the test, they'll tell you which aspect sucks less than the others and give you an idea of your rider type.

As predicted, they told me that I'm a climber.

Okay, jk. They say I'm a Pursuiter - "If you have five minutes to give it everything, no one else has a chance. You may lack the kick of the true sprinter or the steady, diesel-like power of the breakaway specialist, but you can put your head down and do serious damage on the track or shorter time trials. As a Pursuiter, you have Maximal Aerobic Power to spare. That 5-minute effort in Full Frontal? That’s your happy place. "

That actually sounds about right.

Even though I'm only one day in to my trial with Sufferfest, this is feeling much more up my alley vs Zwift.
This is the type of stuff that hangs in the shop that the power test was developed. Cogan went batty on him, saying it was crap, but it seems to work. Neal does a lot for Sufferfest, though I'm not sure how much of it is actually "his", as it were.



He's Rohan Dennis' coach. Word on the street is he's pretty speedy too.

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