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Old 09-10-13, 05:43 AM
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Foot Pain on longer rides

Rode my first century on Sunday.
Felt good, no real problems during or after the ride.

Except...

The balls of my feet hurt.
I've expereinced this before on longer rides. Somewhere around the 60 mile / 4 hour mark the balls of my feet start to hurt. Alot.

Any ideas how I might relieve this disomfort / pain?

I haven't tried moving the cleats on my shoes yet.


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Old 09-10-13, 06:33 AM
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My belief (which may or may not be a correct one) is that such discomfort is the result of pressure. Moving you cleats may help if it puts your foot in a position where there is more equally distributed pressure on the foot. I've also experienced pain on the balls of my feet when my shoes were too tight creating a situation where there was no room for movement of my foot within the shoe. There are two other situations in which I've experienced this. One is when I was wearing shoes with too soft a sole (before I started wearing cycling specific shoes) and the pedal just seem to grind into the balls of my feet. The other was when I went to carbon soles in my cycling shoes and removed the insole liner in the shoe (I actually got a half size too small and was try to get by with it). This was just too stiff; the insole liners served a purpose. These days all of my cycling shoes get a pair of Superfeet Black Premium insoles. They seem to be just the right combination of support and padding for my particular situation. https://www.rei.com/product/724384/su...les-low-volume
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Get rid of the cleats.
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Old 09-10-13, 07:02 AM
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IMO the burning you get in the balls of your feet are due to poor shoes that are not stiff enough or more likely too narrow. Most bike shoes are too narrow for American feet. Forcing the bones in your foot too close ends up in pain.
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Improper shoe fit, perhaps too cheap a shoe.
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An arch support with a metatarsal pad should solve this problem. bk
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Old 09-10-13, 09:22 AM
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+1 on the above. Wider shoes and insole inserts helped me a lot.
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Old 09-10-13, 09:36 AM
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I used loose fitting shoes and Birkenstock 3/4 cork composite insoles .. rode for months.. on tour..
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Old 09-10-13, 11:06 AM
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Move cleats rearward. Likely they are too far forward, not actually under ball of foot, but closer to toes.

Otherwise, look at shoe fit and/or lack of stiffness and/or need a touch more padding.
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Old 09-16-13, 06:45 AM
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Foot pain

Thanks for the replies.

I will try moving the cleats and maybe some insoles.

Giving up the cleats will be a last resort.

I am wearing Specialized Expert road shoes. They are plenty stiff. Pretty sure they are not too small. Other than the pain in the balls of my feet I have zero discomfort with the shoes. They are not tight at all.

I can ride 40-50 miles no problem, no pain. It pretty much kicks in suddenly @ 60-75 miles.

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Old 09-16-13, 08:01 AM
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One other possibility, and, yes, I know I'm a newbie, is that you may have developed plantar warts. I had these when I was younger and marching/running long distances. Took forever to get rid of the little buggers and they caused pretty much the same symptoms you described. They did not start burning/hurting until after I had stood for over an hour or marched/run for at least that long.

If you try what everyone else here has suggested and still have the problem, then have a podiatrist check the soles of your feet for plantar warts.
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Old 09-17-13, 06:11 AM
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WIll check out the Specialied insoles. The shoes are less than one month old.

I've had plantar fascitis in the past. This is not the same sort of pain.
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Old 09-17-13, 06:23 AM
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A heat mold orthotic will make your discomfort bearable, if any remains, your foot will be more relaxed, the weight transfer will be more even, you can go to a ski shop and get one made or go google and get a 50$ mold yourself set.

https://www.aetrex.com/customizable-orthotics/

Not saying the shoe isn't flexing, it might be
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Old 09-17-13, 07:48 AM
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Are the cleats properly adjusted? Cleat angle, fore/aft and side to side adjustment need to be correct and is especially noticeable during lengthy periods of time...fatigue, improper adjustment, etc. start to show.
Step One: check for correct cleat placement.
Step Two: use correct insole for your foot
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Old 09-17-13, 02:07 PM
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I would first simply leave a little more room in the shoe than you think you might. I assume you can loosen or tighten the hose using the velcro or wire fasteners on top of the shoe? Leave it looser at the start....your foot gets a little wider when you are riding.

If you start messing with the cleats it can lead to knee pain.
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When this problem has happened to me in the past, I have found that it is the result my clenching my foot. Once I realized that was the problem, a conscious effort to keep my toes spread has really helped. At times, I also add some padding under my toes that is a bit taller in the center to force the toes apart. I think Specialized does something like this with their insoles.

Good luck. Far better to have the feet as the weak link point of contact than the one above them.
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Tried everything . Nothing helped at one point could only ride a few miles before the burning pain started . Finally lowered my saddle 10 mm and the pain went away
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Originally Posted by B. Carfree
When this problem has happened to me in the past, I have found that it is the result my clenching my foot. Once I realized that was the problem, a conscious effort to keep my toes spread has really helped. At times, I also add some padding under my toes that is a bit taller in the center to force the toes apart. I think Specialized does something like this with their insoles.

Good luck. Far better to have the feet as the weak link point of contact than the one above them.
This has been an issue for me. But the problem isn't my feet. It's my brain. I have to conciously tell my toes on to to clench. And like I said in another thread, those toes are 2 year olds. I have to tell them over and over.

Edit: another possibility - too tight a strap over the ball of your foot. I don't know this would cause your symptoms. I have found great relief removing the straps entirely and replacing them with grommets and laces. (I know that sounds hokey. It actually is. Costs about $20 to do your first pair of shoes and $10 after for grommets and laces. Go to Tandy Leather for the grommets and tool. Get the two piece brass ones. Hokey, yes, but now $300 shoes are coming with those laces. Exactly what everyone raced for 100 years before velcro.)

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Originally Posted by johnpitts01

I can ride 40-50 miles no problem, no pain. It pretty much kicks in suddenly @ 60-75 miles.
Is your pedaling technique changing as you get a little more worn out from the ride? I've noticed the same thing with soreness in my hands, knee pain and lower back pain in that 50 mile rides are no sweat, but 60-75 miles changes things. My stamina is developing and I've been taking more rides over 50 miles this summer and my body is definitely communicating with me!
Just a thought.
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It's a six year old thread.
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Originally Posted by johnpitts01
Rode my first century on Sunday.
Felt good, no real problems during or after the ride.

Except...

The balls of my feet hurt.
I've expereinced this before on longer rides. Somewhere around the 60 mile / 4 hour mark the balls of my feet start to hurt. Alot.

Any ideas how I might relieve this disomfort / pain?

I haven't tried moving the cleats on my shoes yet.


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This solves it..see my post here:
https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycl...tarsalgia.html
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Old 08-12-19, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by big john
It's a six year old thread.
Still relevant. These issues come up a lot.

Originally Posted by fishboat
Ditto that thread. Those Profoot Miracle insoles are the best I've found for the money. They're also the thinnest and lightest so they don't hinder the fit of my snuggest fitting road bike clipless shoes.
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Old 08-12-19, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by canklecat
Still relevant. These issues come up a lot..
I know, my point was if the poster was waiting for a reply from someone who hasn't posted in 5 years then he probably won't get one.
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Originally Posted by big john
I know, my point was if the poster was waiting for a reply from someone who hasn't posted in 5 years then he probably won't get one.
Point taken, newb mistake. Thanks for the head's up.
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Originally Posted by bargo68
Point taken, newb mistake. Thanks for the head's up.
Gotta take my cheap shots when I can.
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