Cool footage from this year's Paris-Roubaix
04-16-19, 12:56 PM
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Cool footage from this year's Paris-Roubaix
Rider's-eye-view of just how tough this race is:
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/r...ix-2019-420149
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/r...ix-2019-420149
04-16-19, 01:39 PM
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I tried the link but it asked me to sign up for something, so ... here's another.
Evidently, cycle racing would be horrifically boring if it didn't have crashes.
Riders ride on the grass to avoid having to use the cobblestone pavement ... makes me wonder if they could go faster on a softer-riding bike, using the road.
Also wonder what this race would be like without the extensive support, such as entire spare bikes. A totally unsupported race could be interesting; I imagine the attrition would be pretty high.
Evidently, cycle racing would be horrifically boring if it didn't have crashes.
Riders ride on the grass to avoid having to use the cobblestone pavement ... makes me wonder if they could go faster on a softer-riding bike, using the road.
Also wonder what this race would be like without the extensive support, such as entire spare bikes. A totally unsupported race could be interesting; I imagine the attrition would be pretty high.
04-16-19, 02:27 PM
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the official website shows they taped their fingers before starting, and untaped them in the Roubaix showers..
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Looks like a normal Saturday gravel ride to me.
Except we try not to crash as much.
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Except we try not to crash as much.
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04-16-19, 03:22 PM
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I like to think that each one of them are making a guttural "uhhhhhhhh" sound as they ride over the cobbles. That's what I would do.
04-16-19, 08:07 PM
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I tried to watch last night's highlight show on NBC Sports. There was some hockey game on, which ran long, talking heads droned on, then the Paris Roubaix started. It was on my DVR, but ran out 6.9 km from the finish. I had to find another shorter highlight on YouTube, to see the finish. Hockey? Really? For a sport to be a real sport, it has to have wheels on it, like uh ... Paris Roubaix. For live races, like TDF, NASCAR or F1, I set the DVR for + 1 hour to allow for yellow flags, rain delay, etc. For a highlight show, I expect 2 hours to be two hours, not 20 minutes of hockey, talking heads, then all but 6.9 km of the race. End of rant. 😡
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04-16-19, 09:57 PM
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I tried to watch last night's highlight show on NBC Sports. There was some hockey game on, which ran long, talking heads droned on, then the Paris Roubaix started. It was on my DVR, but ran out 6.9 km from the finish. I had to find another shorter highlight on YouTube, to see the finish. Hockey? Really? For a sport to be a real sport, it has to have wheels on it, like uh ... Paris Roubaix. For live races, like TDF, NASCAR or F1, I set the DVR for + 1 hour to allow for yellow flags, rain delay, etc. For a highlight show, I expect 2 hours to be two hours, not 20 minutes of hockey, talking heads, then all but 6.9 km of the race. End of rant. ��
If something runs long, the TV geniuses at least need to fix it where the DVR records what it's supposed to. No, I don't know how they can do that, and I don't care. Just do it.
04-17-19, 07:24 AM
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For some of the "heavier" riders around 75kg.......they were showing power data in the range of 320w NP for 6 hours plus. Geeeeeez.
04-17-19, 09:55 AM
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The footage of support crews with replacement bicycles is a big turn off to me. I believe this endurance race should be without this kind of help.
04-17-19, 12:04 PM
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I tried the link but it asked me to sign up for something, so ... here's another.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cfIjaCZ9NM
Evidently, cycle racing would be horrifically boring if it didn't have crashes.
Riders ride on the grass to avoid having to use the cobblestone pavement ... makes me wonder if they could go faster on a softer-riding bike, using the road.
Also wonder what this race would be like without the extensive support, such as entire spare bikes. A totally unsupported race could be interesting; I imagine the attrition would be pretty high.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cfIjaCZ9NM
Evidently, cycle racing would be horrifically boring if it didn't have crashes.
Riders ride on the grass to avoid having to use the cobblestone pavement ... makes me wonder if they could go faster on a softer-riding bike, using the road.
Also wonder what this race would be like without the extensive support, such as entire spare bikes. A totally unsupported race could be interesting; I imagine the attrition would be pretty high.
I have a friend who lives in France and he has done the amateur Paris - Roubaix ride; he has also done Tourmalet and Ventoux. He says that hands down P-R is the toughest race. Those cobblestones are vicious.
04-18-19, 05:42 AM
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Of course they are needed.
The RACE is about MAN AND MACHINE
In the early days that’s exactly how it was...high DNF rates.
I have a friend who lives in France and he has done the amateur Paris - Roubaix ride; he has also done Tourmalet and Ventoux. He says that hands down P-R is the toughest race. Those cobblestones are vicious.
I have a friend who lives in France and he has done the amateur Paris - Roubaix ride; he has also done Tourmalet and Ventoux. He says that hands down P-R is the toughest race. Those cobblestones are vicious.
04-18-19, 06:36 AM
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For an idea of how unreal that is, I'm your local Cat 4/5 pack fodder and dabble in time trial and running.
I know that's their NP and not actual average, so it's inflated for the surges, but if you put a gun to my head I could probably only toss 320 for about 8 minutes before I pop. Maybe 20min by the end of the year.
Dudes doing that much for like 1/4 of an entire 24 hour day.
I get that they ride like 25 hours a week, but still.
I know that's their NP and not actual average, so it's inflated for the surges, but if you put a gun to my head I could probably only toss 320 for about 8 minutes before I pop. Maybe 20min by the end of the year.
Dudes doing that much for like 1/4 of an entire 24 hour day.
I get that they ride like 25 hours a week, but still.
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I tried to watch last night's highlight show on NBC Sports. There was some hockey game on, which ran long, talking heads droned on, then the Paris Roubaix started. It was on my DVR, but ran out 6.9 km from the finish. I had to find another shorter highlight on YouTube, to see the finish. Hockey? Really? For a sport to be a real sport, it has to have wheels on it, like uh ... Paris Roubaix. For live races, like TDF, NASCAR or F1, I set the DVR for + 1 hour to allow for yellow flags, rain delay, etc. For a highlight show, I expect 2 hours to be two hours, not 20 minutes of hockey, talking heads, then all but 6.9 km of the race. End of rant. 😡
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First of all, it's NHL playoffs. ain't NOTHING like playoff hockey. So what's a guy to do to get both fixes? NBC sports gold. On sale right now for $20. You get the rest of their coverage until Le Tour, when it renews for like $50. Totally worth it.
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Well then why not give them all identical bikes and eliminate feedzones?
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sounds like the PBP threads are more your speed. Horses for courses. Cheers!
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If you are not racing, why not carry everything you think you will need to keep you from walking home?
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I was lucky enough to ride the Paris Roubaix Challenge last Saturday. I rode an old Peugeot, so I put up a full post in the C&V section if anyone wants to read it.
The thing about riding the pave is that it is unlike anything else. I'd ridden a few strips of cobbles and unmade road locally as preparation but they were nothing like the pave. The cobbles on the pave are large and very uneven, and the surface of the pave is rutted with frequent potholes and dips; the drop from the crown to the ruts is frequently over a foot on a road that's not much more than 6 foot wide.
The advice is to ride as close to the crown as possible - potholes and projecting stones permitting - while turning the highest gear you can. With the resistance from the cobbles that takes a huge amount of energy, and after 2km of pave the legs are burning.
Watching the pro's on Sunday going over one of the same sections of pave I'd ridden the day before was awesome, and a real eye opener about the level they're on.
The thing about riding the pave is that it is unlike anything else. I'd ridden a few strips of cobbles and unmade road locally as preparation but they were nothing like the pave. The cobbles on the pave are large and very uneven, and the surface of the pave is rutted with frequent potholes and dips; the drop from the crown to the ruts is frequently over a foot on a road that's not much more than 6 foot wide.
The advice is to ride as close to the crown as possible - potholes and projecting stones permitting - while turning the highest gear you can. With the resistance from the cobbles that takes a huge amount of energy, and after 2km of pave the legs are burning.
Watching the pro's on Sunday going over one of the same sections of pave I'd ridden the day before was awesome, and a real eye opener about the level they're on.
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First of all, it's NHL playoffs. ain't NOTHING like playoff hockey. So what's a guy to do to get both fixes? NBC sports gold. On sale right now for $20. You get the rest of their coverage until Le Tour, when it renews for like $50. Totally worth it.
https://www.nbcsports.com/gold/cycli...packages_tiles
https://www.nbcsports.com/gold/cycli...packages_tiles
They had dual streams for the Tour, both Eurovision and NBCSN so I preferred Eurovision's commentary. They have a ton of UCI racing including mtb and cross. You can watch live or replay later.
I haven't used it as much as I should but will probably renew again. It's been worth it to me.
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If such a race had bikes being non-replaceable, it would be interesting to see what the pros would really choose to ride that was more guaranteed to go the distance. I'd also make wheels non replaceable and with a flat, then the rider has to fix/replace his own.
04-21-19, 08:34 AM
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You think that everyone is counting on having a mechanical during the race? They’re setting up the bikes to be as fast as possible, but still go the distance.
They’re not going to ride 25lb steel frames and 36h wheels with airless tires to be ‘bomb proof;’ If carbon and 28’s made it to the finish without breaking, then it was enough, not that they got lucky.
Even with support cars, it’s a pretty significant penalty to have to stop and change wheels, and then go ‘full hero mode’ to pull yourself back up to the end of the line, especially if it’s late in the race.