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Old 07-09-19, 08:54 AM
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Which starch should I put on my bicycle chain?
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
Last point on evolution--success in adaptation is defined as surviving to reproduce, so it's really a very low bar in determining a good diet. Almost anything will allow you to do that. That's a far cry from answering the question "what diet will keep me healthy into my old age?" not to mention "what won't make me fat?"
Agreed, which is why I always laugh when people play the "what our ancestors ate" card. They lived for 30 years if they were lucky, ate what they could find, often going without. Surely they were often deficient in one nutrient or others, and suffered accordingly. We can do much better today.
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That is an interesting study, thank you for posting it. Lots to read and ponder.
It's in the Lancet. Read skeptically.
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Originally Posted by willibrord
Which starch should I put on my bicycle chain?

Corn starch prevents chafing. Worth a try because it's in charge of giving bikes vitality.
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My crabon fiper bike assploded when I put corn starch on my disc brake tubeless wheels with a triple crank and also added it to my chain wax because I crashed into a family of four on my MUP while attempting a strava segment and racing an e-bike with flat pedals and not wearing lycra because I'm not a wannabe and everyone who is faster than me is a wannabe.
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Originally Posted by ksryder
My crabon fiper bike assploded when I put corn starch on my disc brake tubeless wheels with a triple crank and also added it to my chain wax because I crashed into a family of four on my MUP while attempting a strava segment and racing an e-bike with flat pedals and not wearing lycra because I'm not a wannabe and everyone who is faster than me is a wannabe.
When I get into a mood like that, I take potassium, magnesium, Dr. Scholl's foot beverage and strontium-90. Flushes out the lactic toxins from my adenoids, but only on Thursdays.
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When I get into a mood like that, I take potassium, magnesium, Dr. Scholl's foot beverage and strontium-90. Flushes out the lactic toxins from my adenoids, but only on Thursdays.
I can't do that it's not keto.
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Originally Posted by ksryder
I can't do that it's not keto.
I just sprinkle the stuff on a deep fried stick of butter and I figure it's ok.

I have to say I miss battered butter sticks, though. Can I substitute pork rinds?
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1. ketosis is like antibiotic. Use it if you have an infection, avoid if you're normal. Certain medical conditions (eg, epilepsy) could be a result of malfunctioning carbohydrate pathways (could be due to genetic, or environmental). For these people maybe keto is better. However, asking the body and people to stay in ketosis is not easy. And nobody wants to have to buy ketone testing kits to test their urine to see if they're in fact in ketosis. Cavemen didn't have these kits.
2. eat a high fiber diet, eat an iso- or hypo- caloric diet. You lose the weight and gain health benefits. And no need to buy any testing kits
3. eat like bluezone people, and the asians. But admittedly, you'd have to go back a few decades to find the true food of what these bluezone regions. That's because today's bluezone folks don't eat the same diet that their ancestors ate 50 years ago. Today's "bluezones" are consuming too much processed carbs, and too much calories.
4. The Eskimos. I'm not an eskimo, I don't have eskimo adaptations (eg, larger than normal liver to cope with a high protein diet), and I don't live in eskimo condition (eg, have to work extremely hard to hunt my food). So why am I eating like an eskimo? Makes no sense to uphold the eskimo as a model diet. Furthermore, eskimos have a short lifespan and they have a high incidence of endemic infection due to eating raw meat (but ironically it's the endemic infection that helps to lower their cholestrol!).
5. Equating process carbs and sugar with all "carbs". This gets me. It's quite disingenuous that many lowcarbers purposely lump every thing into bad carbs. This is not true, they know it, but they still lump everything together to make their argument look good.

But I will admit, for some people, keto seems to work wonder. But at the end of the day, it still boils down to restricting calories. People who are eating keto and overconsuming will still get fat and sick. People who consume less calories (regardless of diet type) are better off. But if we were to talk about the opitimal diet for the modern-caveman, who lives in a heated house, work in an office, drives his car to hunt at some supermarket for food, then all data seems to point to this diet: eat high fiber and eat less.

And since this is a cycling forum, let's also talk about diet and cycling performance. No carbs, no performance at high intensity. Yep, I've tried the keto thing for a couple months. Sure I could ride for 4-5 hours at zone 2 without eating (and this was after a 12hr fast). But the second I went above zone 3 (eg, in a spirited climb), performance dipped really fast. So no carbs no performance.
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