One Man’s View Of Disc Brakes
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Well, you shouldn't be fine with the bike industry limiting your choices and forcing you to be locked to your shop for expensive yearly maintenance (hydraulic discs).
For riding in relatively flat and dry conditions, discs add a bunch of unnecessary weight, complexity and incompatibilities.
I was riding with a fast crowd yesterday on a ride that alternated between soul-crushing climbs and warp-speed twisty descents. With rim brakes and Scott brake pads, I was likely braking at the limits of wheel adhesion to the pavement. And this was on good dry asphalt. Good thing I was on rim brakes.
For riding in relatively flat and dry conditions, discs add a bunch of unnecessary weight, complexity and incompatibilities.
I was riding with a fast crowd yesterday on a ride that alternated between soul-crushing climbs and warp-speed twisty descents. With rim brakes and Scott brake pads, I was likely braking at the limits of wheel adhesion to the pavement. And this was on good dry asphalt. Good thing I was on rim brakes.
And now I'm off to yell at Cannondale for not making the rim brake version of their new Supersix Evo Hi-Mod available to the public.
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I you want a mass market bike spec'd to a price by a product manager and an accountant, you're going to get stuck with disk brakes. Rim brakes will always be available for the connisours.
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Then don't. Stick with the "good enough" that you're familiar with. If you should want a snazzy new bike sometime down the line, and it's only available with hydro discs, kvetch about it online, pausing every once in a while to yell at the kids that just won't get off of your lawn.
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Then don't. Stick with the "good enough" that you're familiar with. If you should want a snazzy new bike sometime down the line, and it's only available with hydro discs, kvetch about it online, pausing every once in a while to yell at the kids that just won't get off of your lawn.
I'm very happy with 11 speed, and not looking forward to 12 speed. With the current standards, it doesn't give me more usable gears.
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I've been putting on some miles with a local seniors cycling club. Average age: About 60. The 'A' rides are generally long and fast, as this crowd rides 300 plus days per year. Depths of the winter arr spent riding in Scottsdale.
No shortage of disposable income either; this crowd can afford anything.
Anyway, this crowd is increasingly locked to their shops due to internal frame cable routing, hydraulic discs, electronic shifting and tubeless. Routine maintenance tasks that 20 years ago they would have been embarrassed to take to a shop are now the norm.
As far as the bike industry is concerned: Mission accomplished, I guess.
Fortunately, despite yearly bike hardware budgets in excess of $10k, most of the smarter folks in this crowd have not caved into the road disc nonsense.
No shortage of disposable income either; this crowd can afford anything.
Anyway, this crowd is increasingly locked to their shops due to internal frame cable routing, hydraulic discs, electronic shifting and tubeless. Routine maintenance tasks that 20 years ago they would have been embarrassed to take to a shop are now the norm.
As far as the bike industry is concerned: Mission accomplished, I guess.
Fortunately, despite yearly bike hardware budgets in excess of $10k, most of the smarter folks in this crowd have not caved into the road disc nonsense.
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It's a conspirathy, only Dave is smart enough to see through the evil plan and avoid a life of slavery.
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Hey, I like mad tech, for sure. I usually like to come along when it's ten or fifteen years old though, after the wrinkles have been ironed out.
First generation aero bike, anyone?
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https://classiccycleus.com/home/thats-the-brakes/
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/a-brie...akes-2017.html
**These very early consumer versions were in a lockstep competition with the Campagnolo Delta brakes to see which could stop a bike worse.
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Don't be pedantic. IMO there are still a few niggles with road disc, which realistically, has only been a thing for a few years.
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Anyway, this crowd is increasingly locked to their shops due to internal frame cable routing, hydraulic discs, electronic shifting and tubeless. Routine maintenance tasks that 20 years ago they would have been embarrassed to take to a shop are now the norm.
As far as the bike industry is concerned: Mission accomplished, I guess.
As far as the bike industry is concerned: Mission accomplished, I guess.
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